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Stay classy, Catholic Church, stay classy...
Stay classy, Catholic Church, stay classy...
#1
Well.  It looks like someone wants to deflect the blame for the molestation/pedophilia scandal rocking the Roman Catholic Church from the pope and, well, everyone under him.  Retired Bishop Giacomo Babini, who is, if I'm not mistaken, the loose cannon who is the unofficial speaker of things the Vatican wants said but doesn't want to say officially, has come out with the final word on the real cause of the scandal -- it's a Zionist plot against the Church.

Of course.  How could I be so blind?

He then went on -- and I am not joking about this -- to suggest that Hitler had a good reason for staging the Holocaust.

Once the global media started repeating his words, and a global outcry starting going up from Jews and non-Jews alike, Babini immediately started denying he'd ever said anything of the sort.  But Babini is in his eighties, and apparently doesn't realize that in today's hypermedia world, once you've said something, it stays said.  And there's proof that you said it everywhere.  Denying it just makes you look like a five-year-old next to a broken bag of flour and covered in white dust claiming he's never been in the kitchen.

-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#2
No, no, Bob. It's the gays, not the Jews.
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#3
*headdesk*
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#4
No, I got it! It's the gay Jews!
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#5
Newest excuse from a Catholic archbishop for the church sex scandal: All teenagers are "spontaneously homosexual". This winner also confidently informed a magazine last year that "more Catholics than Jews died in the Holocaust, but this isn't known because the Jews control the world's media."

-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#6
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WAAAAAAOOOOOOOooooooowwwwww.... (@_@)
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#7
WARNING NSFW NSFW NSFW
PROFANE LANGUAGE, BLASPHEMY, TIM MINCHIN.



Sums it up about right for me.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
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#8
I just put a link to that over in the music thread in General/General, but... yeah.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#9
The Vatican is investigating complaints of "feminism" and "activism" among American nuns.
Nice to see they have their priorities straight.  Child molestation is no big deal, but uppity nuns are SRS BSNS.
--Sam
"I'll bounce off that broad flat surface and be in a lot of pain!"
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And just as a little punctuation...
#10
A radical within the Church suggests a root cause for the scandal -- and a solution -- that his fellow priests will no doubt point out are obviously implausible and borderline insane, and which may well bring the full force of Catholic justice down upon him in a way that even the pedophiles haven't seen.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Vatican to court: Priests are not our employees
#11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37182162/ns ... s-europe//

So they're disavowing any actions by these "priests?" Then what are they?

*snort*

Oh well..Sic transit gloria mundi
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figures
#12
And the hypocrite in the stupid hat not more than a week ago spoke at Fatima about taking responsibility... of course the next day he was banging on about how abortion and gay marriage are true threats.
I wonder how long before the evil git just spouts out that the Vatican doesn't have to pay because 'Jesus died for our legal liability.'  It is the natural extension of the scumbag doctrine of vicarious atonement.
As a legal strategy I suspect it is a no starter.  In a non-hierarchical religion it might have had a chance, but claiming no papal authority over bishops is a little like the snake proclaiming his innocence while exiting Snow White's cottage with seven lumps.
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#13
Priest Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuYoK6wv_Y

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What sort of meat does the RC Grist mill spit out on Friday - Nun!
#15
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/0 ... 95802.html
This is just fucked up.  Not just a little.  'Moral Authority I haz it'
There are not words... But here are a few nonetheless.  Those murderous hypocrite cretins.
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#16
The latest insanity from the Catholic Church. That's right. to protest the police doing their jobs the Catholic Church has decided it will no longer investigate claims of child abuse.
EDIT: But in some good news, the Supreme Court just allowed lawsuits against the Vatican to go forward.
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#17
Followup on the Belgian Catholic Church-Police stuff. This is a Google translated article from a Dutch news site, so it's a little hard to understand, but if I'm reading it right, it sounds like, among the other stuff the police found when they raided that church office, they found official documents in the hands of Church officials, documents that should only have been in the hands of the courts and police. And these documents were about investigations into pedophilia and child abuse, and in one case apparently the autopsy records of a pair of murdered girls. And if I read the last paragraph right, there were also memos indicating that church records on child abuse had been burned.

Article here.

-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#18
I see that their priorities are still just what they've always been... From today's CBC.ca newsfeed:
Quote:The Vatican issued a revised set of church guidelines Thursday to respond to the clerical sex abuse scandal, targeting priests who molest the mentally disabled as well as children, and defining child pornography as a canonical crime, but making few substantive changes to existing practice.

The new rules made no mention of the need for bishops to report clerical sex abuse to police, provided no sanctions for bishops who cover up for abusers and did not include any "one-strike and you're out" policy for pedophile priests as demanded by some victims.
So, what are they so concerned about that they don't list censuring somebody who covers up someone else's sex crimes?
Quote:The rules also list the attempted ordination of a woman as a "grave crime" to be handled according to the same set of procedures as sex abuse — despite arguments that grouping the two in the same document would imply equating them.
Oh. Can't let the wimmun get uppity, after all.

But wait - could it possibly just be a coincidence that sex abuse and gender inequality are in the same document?
Quote:At a briefing Thursday, Scicluna defended the inclusion of both sex abuse and ordination of women in the same document as a way of codifying two of the most serious canonical crimes against sacraments and morals that the congregation deals with.

"They are grave, but on different levels," he said, and noted that the document also lists crimes against the sacraments including desecrating the Eucharist, violating the seal of the confessional and — for the first time — apostasy, heresy and schism.
"[T]wo of the most serious canonical crimes". However, they're "grave, but on different levels". Well, that makes it all right, then... right?
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them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
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#19
robkelk Wrote:"[T]wo of the most serious canonical crimes". However, they're "grave, but on different levels". Well, that makes it all right, then... right?

Of course attempting to ordination a woman is so much worse. They should never have been stuck together in the same paper.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#20
I hold to the theory that one of them shouldn't even be considered an issue.
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Matrix Dragon Wrote:I hold to the theory that one of them shouldn't even be considered an issue.

Quite right, children grow up so fast these days that they should be able to fend for themselves. That is the one you meant, right?
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#22
Okay, here's the latest on the Belgian situation: The independent commission investigating child sex abuse in Belgian Catholic churches has released its report, and concluded that "[N]o congregation escapes sexual abuse of minors by one or several of its members." Let's just repeat that -- there was at least one report of sexual abuse for every Catholic church in Belgium.

-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#23
As a caution - these are not convictions or trials, these are merely accusations.

Quite damning, though.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
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#24
True. This is the first results of preliminary investigation. I am of course presuming that accusations with no merit will have been filtered out by this point, and these are those claims which cannot be immediately dismissed as fraudulent -- and it's possible, probably likely, that some fraction of them are less-obvious frauds. But it is still rather disturbing that for every Roman Catholic church in Belgium there is at least one credible complaint of sexual misconduct by a priest therein.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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#25
And more -- from The Guardian, a review/commentary for a new book, The Case of the Pope: Vatican Accountability for Human Rights Abuses by Geoffrey Robertson, which is described as "devastating".

-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
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