Quote:robkelk wrote:Ah, no. No curbstomping here. This is gonna be the long haul. There will be a few battles that may be curb stomps, but mostly because either Salem has nothing in play there, or because she wants us to have an easy battle.Quote:Black Aeronaut wrote:How difficult a fight do we want?
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My questions regarding this: when do you guys think it should happen? Who should be at this facility? (First off: Definitely Salem. Maybe Kyubey as well - that would be a good way for Salem to get OC meguca minions real fast.)
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Answering my own question, I don't like curb-stomp battles in my fiction.
Quote:robkelk wrote:No, this would be pre-Rebellion Homura. Besides, I haven't seen Rebellion yet, so I can't really say if I think she'd be redeemable or not.Quote:Black Aeronaut wrote:Not yet. And, considering the events of Rebellion, does Homura count as a villain?
...BTW, did someone call dibs on the Meguca Five already?...
(Slight digression, for when it becomes appropriate to add to the story thread:"Rui-chan, I've watched Madoka Magica. Kyubey's process for granting Skills is somewhat less safe than the Level Upper process.""The Level Upper put me into a coma.""But you got better."At which point Ruiko deletes Kyubey's contact information from her phone.)
Either way, this cycle is going to be broken, and Madoka might need a limiter placed on her due to all the power she's accrued through the loops Homura has been going through (because her wish and Homura's wish together create a positive feedback loop).
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I say have what's his name from Serenity, the antagonist, break Salem out and somehow drag Kowaru along for the ride
Quote:Bloodfox64 wrote:This. I like this. It fits perfectly in Hild's style.
That isn't really the Agent's style, he knows what he does is evil, but he feels that it is for a greater good. Honestly, I could see Hild taking the Agent up and turning him into an asset.
Quote:Bloodfox64 wrote:Riddick... Isn't as dangerous as he is made out to be.
Someone to arrange a break out... OH! I just came up with a wonderful idea! What if one Richard B. Riddick was put in the same facility as Salem and Kyubey, for the safety of the people of Earth more than anything else. But Riddick being Riddick, breaks out and Salem just takes advantage of the chaos. As for how Riddick breaks out, in the second film (Chronicles of Riddick) it is basically stated that Riddick holds within himself the rage of all the Furyan people and it is implied that this gives him some from of power to work with.
So, what happens when you lock up an Alpha Furyan that has the rage of the entire Furyan race inside of him?
Oh sure. He's dangerous alright, but the man is no worse that a wild animal. So long as you give him no motivation to do harm to you, he is more content to remain unseen and unmolested.
Which means we should probably have a place that can house such people... people who are indeed dangerous... but do not go out of their way to cause needless harm. People like Riddick, who have been shown to even spare people on occasion, if only that he has no real beef with them.
(Note: after having seen the bit from RWBY about Vacuo, Riddick would probably feel right at home there - "As long as you got what it takes to survive, you'll always be welcome in Vacuo.")
More to the point: I'm not saying someone broke Salem out.
I'm saying that Salem broke herself out! Or at least arranged for it to happen. You guys have to remember that not only does Salem have a good amount of power of her own, but she's also a chess master. Her preference is to work through COMPETENT minions (ie, Cinder) who support her own vision, and, if needed, to have those minions hire on COMPETENT help (ie, Torchwic).
Kyubey is a perfect fit for Salem. Salem wants to erase all intelligent life. Apocalypse is a very efficient method - pretty sure if Remnant had a similar kill-switch, she'd have flipped it a long time ago. Maybe she had and the Grimm are the result?
Either way, Kyubey could care less about the Apocalypse. All it is interested in doing is providing energy for its masters - masters who, in practice, no longer exist - whose only interest is in riding out the heat-death of their universe. How they do so is of little concern.
If Kyubey takes Salem on as its new master... well! I'm pretty sure you can see how this would be a real bad thing. :p
And exactly the kind of villainy that we need.
Yes, this shit is gonna get dark. But this is definitely not Evangelion or ASoIaF. There will be heroes, and they are going to fight.
There will be no single magic macguffin. There will be no single climactic victory. The battles will be everywhere and the tools will be many.
Sound good to you guys?