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Something I felt worthy of discussion...
Something I felt worthy of discussion...
#1
Back on another forum a new Anime section had sprung up with only a single thread to fill it, and so I submitted the following to that forum. Well, I was
looking at it and was rather impressed with everything that I put into it, so I felt that it would be worthy of posting it here as well. So, here is my own
thoughts and opinions on the anime that I've seen and could remember off the top of my head.



I'm currently watching Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water. An oldie but goody from Gainax that predates the production Neon Genesis Evangelion. So far, so
good. The characters are colorful without being too overbearing, and the English voice actor for Jean did a nice job of getting the accent right (though
sometimes I wonder if they are pronouncing his name right - French is weird like that).

My only quibble is with the English voice actors for Gargoyle and Capt. Nemo - their voices are all but completely inexpressive. Throw a little drama into it,
guys! Sheesh.

Inukami was fun. Thirteen episodes of seemingly pointless fluff that is reminiscent of Uresei Yatsura, followed by another thirteen episodes of solid
development and serious action. Though at times it felt easy to lose interest due to all the in-your-face showcasing of Japanese cultural quirks and otaku.
Big WTF O_o; when we see all the freaks and weirdos come out of the darkness to save the day.

Recently I've seen Wolf and Spice. That was a good one, though the ending felt somewhat unresolved: we never see if Horo makes it to the northern country.
Other quibble is that it feels like they spent too much time on the final conflict - it just felt like too much to spend on a (albeit dire) financial problem
when there is bound to be more hair-raising adventures to come.

I can't say that I liked Code Geass. It's nothing but a huge series of Xanatos Gambits (reference to the character from the American animation,
Gargoyles, and his tendency to make elaborate plots that either succeed of blow up in his face). Also, I simply did not care for what happened to Euphemia.
You'd think that Lelouch would have had more common sense after what happened with Mao.

Recently I've stopped following Naruto due to what I've been hearing about the manga. Seriously, too much negativity there. What the hell is it with
the Japanese psyche that all the characters you've come to know and love in the story must die. I know poignance counts, but damn! I'll stick with
the fanfictions for now.

Bleach... Haven't touched it lately, because, quite simply, the length of that series daunts me. I never got into anything that long and drawn out after
Dragon Ball Z.

Deathnote... Uhm, no. As compelling as the plot may be, it's not really my kind of story.

For pure awesome, nothing beats Eureka Seven. It's like as if the director took a hard look at Neon Genesis Evangelion and decided to do something like
it, only much more positive. That and you also gotta love the initial hook of sky-surfing giant robots having aerial battles! And the mecha designs are pure
eye-candy - especially the Gekko-Go. That thing looks like somebody was definitely inspired by Klingon Birds of Prey from Star Trek. Pure awesome! And you
just gotta admit it, you love the ending. Hooray for WAFF!

Steamboy COMPLETELY FLOORED ME. The action! The eye candy! (... Moving... Parts... HUGE! @_@ ) This movie is 100% pure awesome and it is definitely what
I consider a shining example of what anime is supposed to be.

Melody of Oblivion came off as being warped from the get-go. From the very first episode, you know that the series is extremely risque. That, combined with
metaphorical ass-pulls that smacks of Revolutionary Girl Utena. Plus, I didn't like the ending. Why the hell would you stay on a ship that is about to
cook-off when you really don't have to. Sorry, but risk of time/interdimensional travel or not, I'd take my chances and try to get the hell off the
ship. Some chance of survival beats no chance.

Full Metal Panic is fun, too. We go from On-And-Off romantic high-jinks and action in the first series, to flat-out comedy in the second, followed by solid
action and tension in the third run (though it sucks what happened to those sisters that Guaron raised).

I tried following series like Uresei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2, but it got to the point where I just gave it up. If your show is going to have so little substance
to it, then you might as well go balls-out in the fine tradition of American animation like Rocko's Modern Life, Eek the Cat, and Ren and Stimpy. Utterly
mindless, but thoroughly entertaining.

Anything Miyazaki touches is solid gold - you might as well call the man the King Midas of Anime. Sure, some of his stuff is just for kids, but that's
what really makes those particular gems shine. Other things that I love about Miyazaki's work: awesome heroines and a distinct lack of senseless death.

Neon Genesis Evangelion. People say that it's a staple of anime. I feel otherwise (see my next entry). Sure, it starts out awesome, but steadily we
begin to descend into the director's own mind which is chock full of self doubt, self pity, and self loathing. Excuse me while I go puke LCL.
*BLOOOOOOORGH!*

Nothing is as stunning and provocative as Akira. The brutality is realistic without being over-the-top, and the story behind it all makes it worth it for us
more squeamish people. Early English versions were confusing and hard to follow, and a terrible coloring job made things difficult to make out at times. The
newer English scripts and recolors, though, blow the old versions out of the water. The complicated schemes are easier to follow and I've been seeing
things that I was having trouble making out before. (Yep, that was indeed an arm blown off by a High Explosive 20mm round!) Definitely something to have in
your collection, though you'll want to keep it out of reach of children.

Armitage the Third: Polymatrix is like Akira in the graphic-violence-versus-awesome-story department, but it's still not quite as gritty. Besides, I think
the way it ends is simply awesome. The idea of two people coming from entirely different places, both fighting for their humanity, and meeting in the midst of
their own personal battles, is very cool and makes for awesome story-telling.

The sequel, Dual Matrix, is nowhere nearly as good, but it is interesting to see where Ross and Naomi end up. It doesn't help that art is drawn slightly
differently this time, and they couldn't get the same voice actors for Sylibus and Armitage. Ross feels more like a side-character in this one, which also
cheapens the deal, and I would have loved to have seen more of what their daughter, Yoko, could really do (she's got to have more than just a photographic
memory). Seeing the card pinned to the refrigerator at the end was cute, though: "Happy 8th Birthday Mommy!"

That's all that I can think of for now. Go ye thereforth and discuss! Big Grin
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#2
Quote: blackaeronaut wrote:




I can't say that I liked Code Geass. It's nothing but a huge series of Xanatos Gambits (reference to the character from the American animation,
Gargoyles, and his tendency to make elaborate plots that either succeed of blow up in his face). Also, I simply did not care for what happened to Euphemia.
You'd think that Lelouch would have had more common sense after what happened with Mao.


Yeah, that was a case of Diabolus Ex Machina to trump anything else in the series. The fact that the rest of the series seems to enjoy pulling out
even more stupendous ones in R2, just to make Lulu pull off even more stupendous feats just to break even, eventually resulting in the end we got.....well,
really, it's not a bad show, but it certainly wasn't what I was expecting after the finale of the first
season. I give it a solid B-.

Quote: Recently I've stopped following Naruto due to what I've been hearing about the manga. Seriously, too much negativity there. What the hell is it with
the Japanese psyche that all the characters you've come to know and love in the story must die. I know poignance counts, but damn! I'll stick with
the fanfictions for now.
DBZ with ninjas, complete with plot threads that get ever more inbred the further in you go. I only read a plot summary on Wikipedia and came to
that conclusion. The idiot plot involved with Sasuke, the supposedly secondary character that the writer likes more than the protagonist, only made it worse.

Quote: Bleach... Haven't touched it lately, because, quite simply, the length of that series daunts me. I never got into anything that long and drawn out after
Dragon Ball Z.
Same reaction, same reasons. Though I hear that it's actually good. Just....incredibly, incredibly long.

Quote: Deathnote... Uhm, no. As compelling as the plot may be, it's not really my kind of story.
I've considered this series on and off, mostly because a buddy of mine watches it and he's as anti-anime as most anyone can get, but he
loved it. Though I do want to see a spinoff manga at some point where Light never regains his memory, if only for the interest of seeing him go on to
essentially face his own evil plans unknowingly.

Quote: For pure awesome, nothing beats Eureka Seven. It's like as if the director took a hard look at Neon Genesis Evangelion and decided to do something like
it, only much more positive. That and you also gotta love the initial hook of sky-surfing giant robots having aerial battles! And the mecha designs are pure
eye-candy - especially the Gekko-Go. That thing looks like somebody was definitely inspired by Klingon Birds of Prey from Star Trek. Pure awesome! And you
just gotta admit it, you love the ending. Hooray for WAFF!
Haven't seen it, though I hear good things(like this) about it. Though I may end up watching it just for the hilarity of calling the mecha
"Sky surfing Evangelions."

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Steamboy COMPLETELY FLOORED ME. The action! The eye candy! (... Moving... Parts... HUGE! @_@ ) This movie is 100% pure awesome and it is definitely what I
consider a shining example of what anime is supposed to be.
I actually picked this up forever ago, but have yet to watch it. I need a given movie night just to work through all the DVDs I have. :lol:

Quote: Full Metal Panic is fun, too. We go from On-And-Off romantic high-jinks and action in the first series, to flat-out comedy in the second, followed by solid
action and tension in the third run (though it sucks what happened to those sisters that Guaron raised).
Ah, the poor twins. Really, I love this franchise in its entirety, and the fact that it has one of the most incredible dubs ever made it seriously
awesome. C'mooooooon fourth season! I want to see "Evil Terrorist Leader Disguise" Tessa.

Quote: I tried following series like Uresei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2, but it got to the point where I just gave it up. If your show is going to have so little
substance to it, then you might as well go balls-out in the fine tradition of American animation like Rocko's Modern Life, Eek the Cat, and Ren and
Stimpy. Utterly mindless, but thoroughly entertaining.
Not familiar with Yatsura, but Ranma's one of those series that I swear gets more depth in fanfic than it really does in its source material.
The fact the author is (in)famous for dragging out her current cash cow for years doesn't help me warm to the manga. The fact that the first introduction I
had to the series was a fanfic that deliberately split up the Official Couple of another franchise I absolutely adore just to give Ranma a new fiancee'
didn't help much. I like to think I've grown past that knee-jerk reaction, but Ranma's never going to be a "big" part of my anime tastes,
if I ever watch it at all.

Quote: Anything Miyazaki touches is solid gold - you might as well call the man the King Midas of Anime. Sure, some of his stuff is just for kids, but that's
what really makes those particular gems shine. Other things that I love about Miyazaki's work: awesome heroines and a distinct lack of senseless death.
Agreed here. I need to pick up Whisper of the Heart after seeing bits and pieces of it at my work at the video store.

Quote:

Neon Genesis Evangelion. People say that it's a staple of anime. I feel otherwise (see my next entry). Sure, it starts out awesome, but steadily we begin
to descend into the director's own mind which is chock full of self doubt, self pity, and self loathing. Excuse me while I go puke LCL. *BLOOOOOOORGH!*
Love the characters. Hate the plot and director. Oh, and I firmly support you Rei h-doujinists. You squick Anno, and that truly is a worthy goal
for any porn artist. Though the new movies are intriguing...
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"Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay
waste."
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#3
Out of curiosity, did anything in Eureka 7 EVER become anything other than a pure bog-standard mecha series? I watched it for awhile on YTV (back when I had
cable and there was an anime block) to see what the fuss was about and spent every episode wondering when I was going to see what was so special about it. Bog
standard main character, bog standard plot, bog standard love interest, bog standard fights, bog standard morality. I'm not trying to diss people that like
it, I just honestly wonder why it became a big thing when everything I saw in the first five or six episodes was completely unoriginal. Does it pull a mind
trip or become seriously deep later on, or is it just that it has surfing mecha and a bunch of women?

For my $0.02, I absolutely loved Bleach until about midway through the Soul Society arc, at which point it fell off a cliff and as far as I saw, never
recovered. Without spoilers, its main problems lay in the fact that there was insane character bloat linked directly into abandoned or hastily ended plot
threads and a abrupt lack of focus on the characters that had been introduced and built up in the first part of the series. The writer has a lot of strong
points and I'd love to see something else by him if an editor had him under control, but the series was just a mess by volume 20.

By the way, saying Rumiko Takahashi "dragged out a cash cow" in Inuyasha is silly. She was the world's best selling female comic artist and the
richest woman in Japan before she started the first page of that series (although I don't believe she held her current position as Japan's wealthiest
manga creator until after she started it). By her own words, she kept doing Inuyasha because she found it fun to write and fun to design new demons. While I
agree the series is excruciatingly slow-paced (every time I ran across a random IY plotline or two I liked it, yet I have no interest in collecting the whole
series, which is pretty damning), she dragged it out because she wanted to, not because she needed the money (or was bullied into it like Toriyama with
Dragonball).
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Quote: Ayiekie wrote:

Out of curiosity, did anything in Eureka 7 EVER become anything other than a pure bog-standard mecha series? I watched it for awhile on YTV (back when I had
cable and there was an anime block) to see what the fuss was about and spent every episode wondering when I was going to see what was so special about it.
Bog standard main character, bog standard plot, bog standard love interest, bog standard fights, bog standard morality. I'm not trying to diss people
that like it, I just honestly wonder why it became a big thing when everything I saw in the first five or six episodes was completely unoriginal. Does it
pull a mind trip or become seriously deep later on, or is it just that it has surfing mecha and a bunch of women?

Well I supose you'll have to define bog standard for me because if skysurfing transforming mecha which fight with combat boomerangs isn't enough to
pique your interest then I don't know what is. Tongue
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#5
Let me use an analogy to explain why that doesn't pique my interest:

One show has characters fight using chi as a universal constant.

One show has characters fight using chi according to the five chakra theory.

One show has characters fight using chi that is aligned to the classical Chinese elements.

This will be three different and interesting styles of super martial arts to people who like that sort of thing. To people who don't, it's guys
punching each other, pretty much the same as every other show with guys punching each other.

I don't find surfing mecha inherently interesting. Is that the draw of the show?
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Quote: Ayiekie wrote:

By the way, saying Rumiko Takahashi "dragged out a cash cow" in Inuyasha is silly. She was the world's best selling female comic artist and the
richest woman in Japan before she started the first page of that series (although I don't believe she held her current position as Japan's wealthiest
manga creator until after she started it). By her own words, she kept doing Inuyasha because she found it fun to write and fun to design new demons. While I
agree the series is excruciatingly slow-paced (every time I ran across a random IY plotline or two I liked it, yet I have no interest in collecting the whole
series, which is pretty damning), she dragged it out because she wanted to, not because she needed the money (or was bullied into it like Toriyama with
Dragonball).
Point. I wasn't familiar with the creator commentary in question, so I'll revise that statement to "dragging out the series",
end stop. The fact that both Ranma and Inuyasha apparently go on for years without making much character progression (reading summaries of both reminds me of
the "This new villain is more powerful than any other villain and we need a specific upgrade to our capabilities to beat him!" formula of DBZ) annoys
me, though, simply because it feels fluffed out for length. If the characters actively changed all that much in the same length compared to the glacial level
of character development that seems to be the norm, I'd be less begrudging of her for the length of the series.
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"Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay
waste."
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#7
Ranma's not really like that at all. First off, there is exactly two stories in the entire series where Ranma learns an "upgrade" to beat someone
(the Hiryuu Shoten Ha story and the Ryuu Kumon story), and neither of them are typical of the genre (the only other story where he gets an "upgrade"
to win a fight, it... decidedly does not win him the fight). Ranma wins fights against superior opponents by lateral thinking, dirty tricks and sheer dumb
luck, not via powerups or the ever popular I-refuse-to-fall-down-before-you-do tactic. Moreover, most of the stories in the series don't rely at all on
Ranma facing a superior opponent (in many cases he fights decidedly inferior opponents but just under conditions that make it difficult for him, such as
fighting to prove he loves Kunou more than a girl), and probably half of them don't involve a fight as the climax at all. Ranma 1/2 subverts most of the
common shonen fighting cliches, which is one of the major reasons I still like it.

Ranma is an episodic comedy with slow character development, but that's pretty typical of episodic comedies by their nature. Inuyasha is rather a different
sort of beast, being a drama with an ongoing single plotline from the first issue to the very end, even if it stylistically resembles a few of the later Ranma
stories (notably the Musk Dynasty and Phoenix Mountain arcs). I think that's part of the problem with it - each story in Ranma 1/2 is a STORY; they have a
beginning, middle, and end and stand on their own. Each story in Inuyasha is part of an ongoing narrative, and that narrative is glacially slow.
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