I haven't exactly been busy on the project either, Morganni, so all is forgiven.
I'm starting to wonder if changing Trivia to Production Notes automatically is a good idea. If there's a lot of division on the Trivia subpages, I'm not sure I'd want to write a program to try and sift through bullet points. But as to making it in the first place, again, I don't know. A lot of the content of Trivia seems to be driven by TRS decisions, which are decided on a case-by-case basis rather than holistically. Some ideas aren't tropes, because they're not about the writing itself. Some are just lightweight YMMV tropes that people didn't want to get a red dot on the main page. So it becomes a catchall grab-bag of whatever people want to put in there.
What is its own namespace is dependent on how much people complain, I suppose. So I'll complain a bit. If you can come up with a more elegant design, Morganni, I'd be all for it. I'm not entirely sure there is a better plan than the status quo, though.
I think in the future, what were namespaces may end up getting loaded as tabs on the main page, so there's a little easier to access the other content. Either that, or folders might turn into tabs. I think there's a lot we can do on improving the interface, so feel free to make suggestions.
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Oh, and one more thing. And I almost hesitate to bring this up, because I think it might get people mad at me, but there's the whole "No Natter" policy on TVT. They went pretty far over into that policy, with all of their natterfications and such. But... I have a hard time with no tolerance policies in general, and this one is no different. Some but certainly not all of the comments in the text were funny and entertaining. And it gave the site a certain amount of informality -- a sense that there were real people writing the site in a big community. Now, obviously, if the comments aren't entertaining or informative, wiki editors should feel perfectly fine cutting them or refactoring the text into something usable.
So, is it possible to replace the "no natter" policy with something more subjective like: "All edits to the wiki should be either informative or entertaining. If you want to comment on a trope's use in a work, go ahead, so long as you can keep it short, entertaining, and on-topic. And on the other hand, if you see something that some other troper wrote that isn't informative, entertaining, or on-topic, you should feel free to improve the page by rewriting or deleting that bit of text. After all, a good story editor knows when to cut or change stuff that just isn't working, and a good wiki editor should do the same." Would that work, or am I too naïve to think we could use something so subjective on a large userbase (I hope), fanboy-fueled site?
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I'm starting to wonder if changing Trivia to Production Notes automatically is a good idea. If there's a lot of division on the Trivia subpages, I'm not sure I'd want to write a program to try and sift through bullet points. But as to making it in the first place, again, I don't know. A lot of the content of Trivia seems to be driven by TRS decisions, which are decided on a case-by-case basis rather than holistically. Some ideas aren't tropes, because they're not about the writing itself. Some are just lightweight YMMV tropes that people didn't want to get a red dot on the main page. So it becomes a catchall grab-bag of whatever people want to put in there.
What is its own namespace is dependent on how much people complain, I suppose. So I'll complain a bit. If you can come up with a more elegant design, Morganni, I'd be all for it. I'm not entirely sure there is a better plan than the status quo, though.
I think in the future, what were namespaces may end up getting loaded as tabs on the main page, so there's a little easier to access the other content. Either that, or folders might turn into tabs. I think there's a lot we can do on improving the interface, so feel free to make suggestions.
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Oh, and one more thing. And I almost hesitate to bring this up, because I think it might get people mad at me, but there's the whole "No Natter" policy on TVT. They went pretty far over into that policy, with all of their natterfications and such. But... I have a hard time with no tolerance policies in general, and this one is no different. Some but certainly not all of the comments in the text were funny and entertaining. And it gave the site a certain amount of informality -- a sense that there were real people writing the site in a big community. Now, obviously, if the comments aren't entertaining or informative, wiki editors should feel perfectly fine cutting them or refactoring the text into something usable.
So, is it possible to replace the "no natter" policy with something more subjective like: "All edits to the wiki should be either informative or entertaining. If you want to comment on a trope's use in a work, go ahead, so long as you can keep it short, entertaining, and on-topic. And on the other hand, if you see something that some other troper wrote that isn't informative, entertaining, or on-topic, you should feel free to improve the page by rewriting or deleting that bit of text. After all, a good story editor knows when to cut or change stuff that just isn't working, and a good wiki editor should do the same." Would that work, or am I too naïve to think we could use something so subjective on a large userbase (I hope), fanboy-fueled site?
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