<![CDATA[Drunkard's Walk Forums - The Attic]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/ Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:50:22 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Wiki: Recent Changes errors]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14480 Wed, 07 Dec 2022 13:48:02 -0500 Bob Schroeck]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14480 Phabricator ticket for it, and if the one thing posted in it so far is any indication, it seems to be a side effect, somehow, of the page deletion problem from earlier in the week.]]> Phabricator ticket for it, and if the one thing posted in it so far is any indication, it seems to be a side effect, somehow, of the page deletion problem from earlier in the week.]]> <![CDATA[A question about 33-Stars]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14447 Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:33:34 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14447
Asking to fill in some background for the retcon.]]>
Asking to fill in some background for the retcon.]]> <![CDATA[[Retcon] Spot the shout-outs]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14446 Mon, 19 Sep 2022 14:35:26 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14446
I think I might have gone a little overboard in the shout-outs, though... Can anybody (who isn't in the writers' circle) identify them all?

Quote:If the reality of the human race was up to him to define, then he had better get around to defining it. He'd been thinking about this for what seemed like a year; it was time to get it over with.

Don't just rebuild the world; redefine it. No, revolutionize it! No Third Impact. No Second Impact. Just an Earth where somebody could venture over the wall around his heart without risking being hurt, and interact with others on a fair basis, with love, and justice, not like the relationships that his father had manipulated him into. A place where he could spread his own wings and take to the sky, instead of being forced to plod along the ground in a role that other people chose for him. Maybe a place of wonders, where science and magic could meet and then stories would begin, but that sort of whimsy might be too much to ask for, even if it was a small wish. But definitely some place where the horrors that he and Auska and Rei had gone through could be imagined, but as nothing more than a story. He so dearly wanted to live in a place where today was always the best day, he could enjoy everything, and everything would definitely be all right.

And maybe a place where he'd have a chance to meet somebody with a light heart who would like him for who he actually was, and would tell him "you belong"... but not just fall into his life. He'd have to work for that person's friendship. Maybe start with sharing some tea, after school.

I'll provide two hints: The shout-outs are to other works, and two of the shout-outs are to the same work.]]>
I think I might have gone a little overboard in the shout-outs, though... Can anybody (who isn't in the writers' circle) identify them all?

Quote:If the reality of the human race was up to him to define, then he had better get around to defining it. He'd been thinking about this for what seemed like a year; it was time to get it over with.

Don't just rebuild the world; redefine it. No, revolutionize it! No Third Impact. No Second Impact. Just an Earth where somebody could venture over the wall around his heart without risking being hurt, and interact with others on a fair basis, with love, and justice, not like the relationships that his father had manipulated him into. A place where he could spread his own wings and take to the sky, instead of being forced to plod along the ground in a role that other people chose for him. Maybe a place of wonders, where science and magic could meet and then stories would begin, but that sort of whimsy might be too much to ask for, even if it was a small wish. But definitely some place where the horrors that he and Auska and Rei had gone through could be imagined, but as nothing more than a story. He so dearly wanted to live in a place where today was always the best day, he could enjoy everything, and everything would definitely be all right.

And maybe a place where he'd have a chance to meet somebody with a light heart who would like him for who he actually was, and would tell him "you belong"... but not just fall into his life. He'd have to work for that person's friendship. Maybe start with sharing some tea, after school.

I'll provide two hints: The shout-outs are to other works, and two of the shout-outs are to the same work.]]> <![CDATA[Ruiko Saten's Playlist]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14427 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:28:25 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14427
But we don't take it for granted. We know you need something to keep you interested in our little project.

While you're waiting for us to finish writing at least the introduction story, here's a crowdsource project we can all take part in: Ruiko Saten's Playlist.

Canonically, Ruiko is always looking for something new to download to her phone, and always willing to share it with her friends. She has particular tastes, as shown in the movie: Saten-san likes upbeat music (she isn't an emo teen) with a positive message. But she doesn't appear to go after the "oldies".

So, in the Metacontinuity, she'll be looking for positive music that was released in the early to mid-2010s - nothing newer than 2016 (her "now" when she started building the playlist).

Something like this, perchance:

[video=youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6mBM2P6CMI[/video]

(Lyrics are available on the official music video's Youtube page. The official video is... not so good, which is why I embedded the concert video instead.)

What else has she found in the Metacontinuity?]]>
But we don't take it for granted. We know you need something to keep you interested in our little project.

While you're waiting for us to finish writing at least the introduction story, here's a crowdsource project we can all take part in: Ruiko Saten's Playlist.

Canonically, Ruiko is always looking for something new to download to her phone, and always willing to share it with her friends. She has particular tastes, as shown in the movie: Saten-san likes upbeat music (she isn't an emo teen) with a positive message. But she doesn't appear to go after the "oldies".

So, in the Metacontinuity, she'll be looking for positive music that was released in the early to mid-2010s - nothing newer than 2016 (her "now" when she started building the playlist).

Something like this, perchance:

[video=youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6mBM2P6CMI[/video]

(Lyrics are available on the official music video's Youtube page. The official video is... not so good, which is why I embedded the concert video instead.)

What else has she found in the Metacontinuity?]]> <![CDATA["The inner council" (needs a better name)(has a better name) "Advisory Board"]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14409 Thu, 07 Jul 2022 13:18:08 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14409 everywhere.

Post-retcon, that is no longer the condition that applies. Which means that there are at least three "asking for advice" scenes that need to be retconned, and maybe more.

So, when a building manager needs to kick a matter up the chain but it isn't important enough to bother Sebastian or Belldandy directly, who do they call?

One thought, for discussion: By Christmas 2016, there's an "inner council" (which really needs a better name than that) of building managers and trusted displacees who offer advice and assistance. Is this something we want in the setting?


Assuming we're doing this:

First question: Who's in the group?

The "building managers" part is easy enough: all of them.

The "trusted displacees" part, though...

To begin with, I'd include both Tessa Testarossa (ranking active military officer among the displacees, even if she's paramilitary) and Artemis Mau (ranking spymaster among the displacees) - if a decision is made that requires armed response or espionage, one or the other will be in charge of turning that decision into action, so they may as well be involved in the meetings. I'd also include one displacee from each residence who takes the building manager's place if the manager is unavailable for whatever reason, with a Doylist expectation of having these displacees take over from the building managers eventually.

Who else gets tapped to be on-call to give advice and make decisions without bothering the Celestials?]]> everywhere.

Post-retcon, that is no longer the condition that applies. Which means that there are at least three "asking for advice" scenes that need to be retconned, and maybe more.

So, when a building manager needs to kick a matter up the chain but it isn't important enough to bother Sebastian or Belldandy directly, who do they call?

One thought, for discussion: By Christmas 2016, there's an "inner council" (which really needs a better name than that) of building managers and trusted displacees who offer advice and assistance. Is this something we want in the setting?


Assuming we're doing this:

First question: Who's in the group?

The "building managers" part is easy enough: all of them.

The "trusted displacees" part, though...

To begin with, I'd include both Tessa Testarossa (ranking active military officer among the displacees, even if she's paramilitary) and Artemis Mau (ranking spymaster among the displacees) - if a decision is made that requires armed response or espionage, one or the other will be in charge of turning that decision into action, so they may as well be involved in the meetings. I'd also include one displacee from each residence who takes the building manager's place if the manager is unavailable for whatever reason, with a Doylist expectation of having these displacees take over from the building managers eventually.

Who else gets tapped to be on-call to give advice and make decisions without bothering the Celestials?]]> <![CDATA[[Proposal] Naming story threads]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14401 Sun, 26 Jun 2022 16:43:54 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14401
(For example, the retconned version of the existing "[IC][Story][Arc 1] House Call" would be called "[IC][Story][2016-10-11] House Call".)

That way, we can decide after the fact that Arc 2 starts on 201#-##-##, Arc 3 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 4 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 5 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 6 (if we go that far) starts on 20##-##-##, and so on, and not need to worry ahead of time about which stories go in which arcs.

It would also make sorting the stories into reading order much easier.

On the other hand, it would require every story to have its own title - no more dumping the works into a single story thread - and sometimes I can't name a story to save my own life.

Do others like this idea, am I way off-base here, or do folks have another idea that's better than this one?]]>
(For example, the retconned version of the existing "[IC][Story][Arc 1] House Call" would be called "[IC][Story][2016-10-11] House Call".)

That way, we can decide after the fact that Arc 2 starts on 201#-##-##, Arc 3 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 4 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 5 starts on 20##-##-##, Arc 6 (if we go that far) starts on 20##-##-##, and so on, and not need to worry ahead of time about which stories go in which arcs.

It would also make sorting the stories into reading order much easier.

On the other hand, it would require every story to have its own title - no more dumping the works into a single story thread - and sometimes I can't name a story to save my own life.

Do others like this idea, am I way off-base here, or do folks have another idea that's better than this one?]]> <![CDATA[[Fun] Image thread 2]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14389 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:28:13 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14389 Old thread is mainly pre-retcon, but has some posts that we can still use.


Starting off the new thread with a new character: Garnett Iwasaki. She's the very first building manager in the post-retcon Metacontinuity.


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A recent college graduate, Garnett didn't get the business-admin job she wanted in Tokyo (so she'd have ready access to the newest anime when it came out). Instead, she ended up taking a chance on an ad that turned out to be for the position of manager and local guide for the Masaki residence.

We're still writing her job-interview story as of this posting. So far, she's reached the Masaki residence and met Aeka.

EDIT: Oops - the other writers wanted her to wear earrings. I'll need to fix that.]]> Old thread is mainly pre-retcon, but has some posts that we can still use.


Starting off the new thread with a new character: Garnett Iwasaki. She's the very first building manager in the post-retcon Metacontinuity.


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A recent college graduate, Garnett didn't get the business-admin job she wanted in Tokyo (so she'd have ready access to the newest anime when it came out). Instead, she ended up taking a chance on an ad that turned out to be for the position of manager and local guide for the Masaki residence.

We're still writing her job-interview story as of this posting. So far, she's reached the Masaki residence and met Aeka.

EDIT: Oops - the other writers wanted her to wear earrings. I'll need to fix that.]]> <![CDATA[[OOC] Help with characters]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14382 Sat, 11 Jun 2022 14:44:56 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14382

Kicking it off: How would Ranma react when he learns about the Tenchi Solution? Is his ego big enough that he'd want to marry all of his fiancees, or would he prefer no fiancee at all so that he can devote his entire life to martial arts, or would he want only one wife (probably Akane, given the events of the Saffron arc), or something else?]]>

Kicking it off: How would Ranma react when he learns about the Tenchi Solution? Is his ego big enough that he'd want to marry all of his fiancees, or would he prefer no fiancee at all so that he can devote his entire life to martial arts, or would he want only one wife (probably Akane, given the events of the Saffron arc), or something else?]]> <![CDATA[[Fun] New spells for Mimi Hanyu]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14373 Sun, 22 May 2022 13:57:49 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14373
In anime canon, she has all of one spell: Charm Buster, which dazes or knocks out its targets.

This list might, perhaps, not be completely serious... Smile
  • Her basic spell as described above: Charm Buster
  • Long-range version: Charm Divine Buster
  • Massively-overpowered anti-mecha version: Charm GunBuster

Any more?]]>
In anime canon, she has all of one spell: Charm Buster, which dazes or knocks out its targets.

This list might, perhaps, not be completely serious... Smile
  • Her basic spell as described above: Charm Buster
  • Long-range version: Charm Divine Buster
  • Massively-overpowered anti-mecha version: Charm GunBuster

Any more?]]> <![CDATA[[Retcon] Threads for deletion]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14371 Sat, 21 May 2022 22:11:18 -0500 Labster]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14371
[OOC] Possible Benjamin/Misaka Team-Ups?
[OOC][Notice]Going to California for a bit...
[OOC][PLOT][Info][Fun] Astrological Horoscopes
[RFC][Info] BA's Stream of Conscious Notes for PMMM Movies
[RFC][Info] Playing with Boom-Boom (Or, Antimatter and You - A Children's Parable)
[OOC][ART] Got a line on an artist...
[Teaser][WIP] Maybe if it was a bit on the dull side...
[IC][Short][Season 1] An Interlude on Saturnalia
[Season 1][WIP][RFC][OOC] The Silence of Teletha Testarossa
[OOC][META][INFO][FUN] So what do they REALLY know?
[I/OOC][WIP][STORY][Season 1][RFC] Less Than

And probably just delete:
Dartz and BlackAeronaut ]]>
[OOC] Possible Benjamin/Misaka Team-Ups?
[OOC][Notice]Going to California for a bit...
[OOC][PLOT][Info][Fun] Astrological Horoscopes
[RFC][Info] BA's Stream of Conscious Notes for PMMM Movies
[RFC][Info] Playing with Boom-Boom (Or, Antimatter and You - A Children's Parable)
[OOC][ART] Got a line on an artist...
[Teaser][WIP] Maybe if it was a bit on the dull side...
[IC][Short][Season 1] An Interlude on Saturnalia
[Season 1][WIP][RFC][OOC] The Silence of Teletha Testarossa
[OOC][META][INFO][FUN] So what do they REALLY know?
[I/OOC][WIP][STORY][Season 1][RFC] Less Than

And probably just delete:
Dartz and BlackAeronaut ]]> <![CDATA[Retcon assumptions]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14368 Fri, 20 May 2022 11:43:41 -0500 robkelk]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14368

First: Based on The Big Raid, Tessa Testarossa is de facto leader of the displacees' assembled military forces. It's her job to coordinate cross-residence operations.

Second: It isn't her job to exercise oversight over such operations. That's Lord Phantomhive's job.

Third: With a different residence manager in charge in Pensacola, the political climate there is less reactionary. It can still be conservative, but not to the "undo everything the last administration did" reactionary levels being displayed in the Politics forum here.

Fourth: With the MITHRIL forces - especially the two Whispered - being in a different residence from the TSAB forces, Leonard never had any reason to target Nanoha and Fate (so they are and have always been okay), and thus Haruka and Michiru never crossed the line (so they were never banished from Blossom). Leonard still approached Haruka and Michiru, but that's solely because they were part of The Big Raid.


Anything seem off-kilter? Anything obvious that's been missed?]]>

First: Based on The Big Raid, Tessa Testarossa is de facto leader of the displacees' assembled military forces. It's her job to coordinate cross-residence operations.

Second: It isn't her job to exercise oversight over such operations. That's Lord Phantomhive's job.

Third: With a different residence manager in charge in Pensacola, the political climate there is less reactionary. It can still be conservative, but not to the "undo everything the last administration did" reactionary levels being displayed in the Politics forum here.

Fourth: With the MITHRIL forces - especially the two Whispered - being in a different residence from the TSAB forces, Leonard never had any reason to target Nanoha and Fate (so they are and have always been okay), and thus Haruka and Michiru never crossed the line (so they were never banished from Blossom). Leonard still approached Haruka and Michiru, but that's solely because they were part of The Big Raid.


Anything seem off-kilter? Anything obvious that's been missed?]]> <![CDATA[[OOC][PLOT][ARC 2] Planning for Season 2 - The Retcon]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14365 Wed, 18 May 2022 22:57:56 -0500 Black Aeronaut]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14365
There's going to be quite a bit getting shuffled around here, but I have no idea where to start.  Good thing we haven't done too much yet.  Tongue]]>
There's going to be quite a bit getting shuffled around here, but I have no idea where to start.  Good thing we haven't done too much yet.  Tongue]]> <![CDATA[[OOC][PLOT][ARC 1] Planning for Season 1 - The Retcon]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14364 Wed, 18 May 2022 22:50:29 -0500 Black Aeronaut]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14364
In our conversation after I made my decision to leave TNB, it looks like some of the biggest changes are going to be in the Halloween Story, which will likely be a total rewrite, as well as the complete removal of the residences in San Antonio as there will be no one who feels up to the task of writing that setting but me.

Which means we're gonna have to shuffle some displacees around.

We're letting Inquisitive Raven have first dibs on the Lyrical Nanoha characters.  Regardless of if she wants to write them or not, they'll likely be placed into that NPC residence so as to be used as open characters.

The Evangelion Crew will all likely go to Douglas Gardens, as it is canonical that Rei, Asuka, and Shinji are all talented young musicians.  And given what they went through, all of them, probably even Asuka, too, will likely appreciate being in an environment that's nowhere nearly as "exciting" as Tokyo-III was.

Having Misato, Kaji, and Ritsuko around over there will probably be for the best, anyhow.  Someone has to ride herd on the Gorillaz, after all, and they'll need someone with extensive medical knowledge to handle some of the absurd injuries they're bound to incur.  (Except for Noodle, but Noodle is just plain bad-ass like that.)

Hotaru and Setsuna can probably arrive with Haruka and Michiru.  Setsuna being comatose throughout Season 1 will make these two understandably twitchy, secretive, and prone to falling back into bad habits.  Bonus points if it becomes something Hotaru scolds them for, which will have a hell of a lot more impact coming from her than if such a scolding came from Usagi.

The FMP crew...  No idea.  This could be a chance to include the Tuatha de Danaan - life is always so much better with a stealth amphibious assault submarine.  Maybe somewhere in LA?  San Diego?  Or how about the Puget Sound?

No, wait.  Throw them in with the Hanagumi.  Kohbu are about the same scale as Arm Slaves, after all.  They'll fit right in~.  (Seriously.  Imagine Teletha butting heads with Li Koran over Magic vs Lambda Driver.)

Tenchi and Company...  No idea for sure, either.  But the Puget Sound seems like a better fit for them.  Plenty of room, similar climate to Okayama (but no snow during Winter).  The Serenity and her crew will probably need to go with them, because Washu's Lab is the only thing we got that can accommodate a ship like that.

The Puella Magi...  It might be better to place them with the Lyrical Nanoha contingent.  If nothing else, the TSAB people might be able to come up with a stop-gap measure for dealing with corruption in soul gems.

Not gonna cover the characters from RWBY because we haven't really done much with them.  Except for a name-drop in one of Rob's stories that was gonna get axed anyhow because I hadn't brought them in yet.  Also there was the Night at Callahan's recap, but that was gonna get rewritten anyhow.

That's all I can think of - I hope I'm not forgetting anyone.]]>
In our conversation after I made my decision to leave TNB, it looks like some of the biggest changes are going to be in the Halloween Story, which will likely be a total rewrite, as well as the complete removal of the residences in San Antonio as there will be no one who feels up to the task of writing that setting but me.

Which means we're gonna have to shuffle some displacees around.

We're letting Inquisitive Raven have first dibs on the Lyrical Nanoha characters.  Regardless of if she wants to write them or not, they'll likely be placed into that NPC residence so as to be used as open characters.

The Evangelion Crew will all likely go to Douglas Gardens, as it is canonical that Rei, Asuka, and Shinji are all talented young musicians.  And given what they went through, all of them, probably even Asuka, too, will likely appreciate being in an environment that's nowhere nearly as "exciting" as Tokyo-III was.

Having Misato, Kaji, and Ritsuko around over there will probably be for the best, anyhow.  Someone has to ride herd on the Gorillaz, after all, and they'll need someone with extensive medical knowledge to handle some of the absurd injuries they're bound to incur.  (Except for Noodle, but Noodle is just plain bad-ass like that.)

Hotaru and Setsuna can probably arrive with Haruka and Michiru.  Setsuna being comatose throughout Season 1 will make these two understandably twitchy, secretive, and prone to falling back into bad habits.  Bonus points if it becomes something Hotaru scolds them for, which will have a hell of a lot more impact coming from her than if such a scolding came from Usagi.

The FMP crew...  No idea.  This could be a chance to include the Tuatha de Danaan - life is always so much better with a stealth amphibious assault submarine.  Maybe somewhere in LA?  San Diego?  Or how about the Puget Sound?

No, wait.  Throw them in with the Hanagumi.  Kohbu are about the same scale as Arm Slaves, after all.  They'll fit right in~.  (Seriously.  Imagine Teletha butting heads with Li Koran over Magic vs Lambda Driver.)

Tenchi and Company...  No idea for sure, either.  But the Puget Sound seems like a better fit for them.  Plenty of room, similar climate to Okayama (but no snow during Winter).  The Serenity and her crew will probably need to go with them, because Washu's Lab is the only thing we got that can accommodate a ship like that.

The Puella Magi...  It might be better to place them with the Lyrical Nanoha contingent.  If nothing else, the TSAB people might be able to come up with a stop-gap measure for dealing with corruption in soul gems.

Not gonna cover the characters from RWBY because we haven't really done much with them.  Except for a name-drop in one of Rob's stories that was gonna get axed anyhow because I hadn't brought them in yet.  Also there was the Night at Callahan's recap, but that was gonna get rewritten anyhow.

That's all I can think of - I hope I'm not forgetting anyone.]]> <![CDATA[[OOC][INFO][PLOT][RFC] Parting Gifts]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14363 Wed, 18 May 2022 22:10:31 -0500 Black Aeronaut]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14363
It will also be useful in that any old material we find that we meant to include, but simply forgot to because we lost track of it, can be reposted here for inclusion on the TNB wiki.

Thing is, I don't want this to be an acrimonious affair.  I'm already hurting enough as is, and I know I'm not going to gain anything by making this any more difficult than it must be.  And I think it would probably be very helpful (and safer) if there is some record of me stating clearly what I would be keeping for myself, and what will be left behind.  Hence, this thread, which has the helpfully suggested title of "Parting Gifts", meant in an unironic, non-sarcastic way.

I also don't want to be seen as some horse's ass of a man-child for just dropping everything and running.  I *will* do my part to help ensure a smooth transition to the new normal, up to and including suggesting ideas to cover up the bald spots that the removal of my content is going to create.

That said, let's get started with the basics.


My SI character is off-limits.

This isn't something that's being done out of childishness.  Rather, the only sort of person that would be able to get him right will be someone just as psychologically damaged as I am, and therefore prone to making the same mistakes I have over the course of this project.  We have no one like that on the writing staff at this time - no offense at all to any of them, but it's very difficult for most people to wrap their head around what I went through as a child and even as an adult.  Even this process of giving up this baby of mine is unimaginable for them - not even Bob could think of what would have to transpire for him to walk away from Drunkard's Walk, let alone the anguish it would cause him.

I don't hold this against them, because such understanding comes at great difficulty and emotional hand wringing.  The Trope "You Don't Want To Know" applies to my past in spades.  Seriously.  You Don't Want To Know, and it's made some of my writing, even if ultimately rewarding, something that is very difficult to stomach.

If you, future writer, feel that you can pull it off, then you're welcome to try.  But not with Benjamin.  He is me and I am him, which is part of the reason why I'm having to walk away from here in the first place.

This means that Trita is off limits as well.  She is my darling little sister who I never got to have in my life.  In the isekai stories where the protagonist is ridiculed and abused by the rest of their family, Trita would have been the character who defiantly stands up against her own family for the sake of her brother, and unabashedly show her love.

Trita would be the overpowered little girl who giggles the most adorable laugh... all while destroying her enemies in a manner that is hilarious at first, until the Fridge Horror sets in and you realize just what this child did for the sake of her beloved brother.  And later on in life, she would be the personification of the phrase, "She is beauty, she is grace, she will kick you in the face."

To let someone else write her without being involved myself will feel like I'm letting you take away one of my precious loved ones.

Alicia Testarossa, however, I will leave open for someone else to use as a character in their stories.

My only request, though, is that you come up with your own story if you wish to have her resurrected.  This is because the plot behind her and Benjamin's story is so very intrinsic to the person I am.  I've had so much taken away from me that to see someone else have to go through such unfairness would have driven me up the wall like that.

More generally speaking, I would appreciate it if the overall plots for my stories were not used in TNB.  Individual elements from said plots are fine, but I would also appreciate it if people asked first.

With all of this said, I'll be going through the posts in the TNB Subforum I've authored and creating a listing of things that are open and things that are off-limits.  If someone wants to ask about something specific, then by all means, please do so.  I'm more than willing to be cooperative.]]>
It will also be useful in that any old material we find that we meant to include, but simply forgot to because we lost track of it, can be reposted here for inclusion on the TNB wiki.

Thing is, I don't want this to be an acrimonious affair.  I'm already hurting enough as is, and I know I'm not going to gain anything by making this any more difficult than it must be.  And I think it would probably be very helpful (and safer) if there is some record of me stating clearly what I would be keeping for myself, and what will be left behind.  Hence, this thread, which has the helpfully suggested title of "Parting Gifts", meant in an unironic, non-sarcastic way.

I also don't want to be seen as some horse's ass of a man-child for just dropping everything and running.  I *will* do my part to help ensure a smooth transition to the new normal, up to and including suggesting ideas to cover up the bald spots that the removal of my content is going to create.

That said, let's get started with the basics.


My SI character is off-limits.

This isn't something that's being done out of childishness.  Rather, the only sort of person that would be able to get him right will be someone just as psychologically damaged as I am, and therefore prone to making the same mistakes I have over the course of this project.  We have no one like that on the writing staff at this time - no offense at all to any of them, but it's very difficult for most people to wrap their head around what I went through as a child and even as an adult.  Even this process of giving up this baby of mine is unimaginable for them - not even Bob could think of what would have to transpire for him to walk away from Drunkard's Walk, let alone the anguish it would cause him.

I don't hold this against them, because such understanding comes at great difficulty and emotional hand wringing.  The Trope "You Don't Want To Know" applies to my past in spades.  Seriously.  You Don't Want To Know, and it's made some of my writing, even if ultimately rewarding, something that is very difficult to stomach.

If you, future writer, feel that you can pull it off, then you're welcome to try.  But not with Benjamin.  He is me and I am him, which is part of the reason why I'm having to walk away from here in the first place.

This means that Trita is off limits as well.  She is my darling little sister who I never got to have in my life.  In the isekai stories where the protagonist is ridiculed and abused by the rest of their family, Trita would have been the character who defiantly stands up against her own family for the sake of her brother, and unabashedly show her love.

Trita would be the overpowered little girl who giggles the most adorable laugh... all while destroying her enemies in a manner that is hilarious at first, until the Fridge Horror sets in and you realize just what this child did for the sake of her beloved brother.  And later on in life, she would be the personification of the phrase, "She is beauty, she is grace, she will kick you in the face."

To let someone else write her without being involved myself will feel like I'm letting you take away one of my precious loved ones.

Alicia Testarossa, however, I will leave open for someone else to use as a character in their stories.

My only request, though, is that you come up with your own story if you wish to have her resurrected.  This is because the plot behind her and Benjamin's story is so very intrinsic to the person I am.  I've had so much taken away from me that to see someone else have to go through such unfairness would have driven me up the wall like that.

More generally speaking, I would appreciate it if the overall plots for my stories were not used in TNB.  Individual elements from said plots are fine, but I would also appreciate it if people asked first.

With all of this said, I'll be going through the posts in the TNB Subforum I've authored and creating a listing of things that are open and things that are off-limits.  If someone wants to ask about something specific, then by all means, please do so.  I'm more than willing to be cooperative.]]> <![CDATA[I've come to a decision]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14362 Wed, 18 May 2022 07:09:36 -0500 Black Aeronaut]]> http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14362
I've come to the decision that I'm not mentally healthy enough for something like this.  I seem to have control issues that center around how I've had so much taken away from me by other people all throughout my life.

Yes, I'm admitting it.  I'm a fucking control freak.

But I'm not saying that to ask forgiveness or anything as such, because I know that's not how real life works.  Real life doesn't want forgiveness.  It wants penance.  So instead, I'm only saying this so you understand why I've come to this decision.

I'll be leaving the project.  You guys get to own it now and do as you please.

But I don't want my character involved, even in a past-tense.  None of the stories I wrote will exist anymore.  The San Antonio residence can still exist.  But it will be a different person there, with different stories, and maybe even different residents because I know some people wanted to call dibs on others.

That's my condition.  You will have to come up with another character, maybe even more than one, to take Benjamin's place, and then retcon everything else.  No, not even filing the serial numbers off will suffice.  It has to be someone else entirely who behaves entirely different from me.

I don't even want any writing credit.  I don't want any association with this anymore because it's caused me to hurt that much.

I know you think I'm being immature, but consider this: I haven't been able to do the setting much justice with my character because I've been making him a Mary Sue.  So it's better that you have a character that is "perfectly imperfect" in his place instead.  Even if my writing has a certain style and energy that others seem to appreciate, it doesn't make up for the fact that I wrote Benjamin like that.  And apparently I'm incapable of separating myself from the SI.

Personally, I thought that was part of what made it so good.  I'm eccentric in that I like to believe that in all reality, somewhere out there is this other version of me.  And part of why I was able to hit everyone so hard in the feels is because I was able to associate that closely with my self-insert and convey the things I feel through him.

But I guess that's only good enough if most of all the other characters hate you.  Which really hurts when you associate that closely with your SI and you don't know any other way of doing it.

Please don't make this any harder on me than it is.  This is going to be like killing part of myself, and not in a healthy way.  And as things are right now?  I have too much to do, and not enough time.  And I'd rather get this done as quickly as possible.]]>
I've come to the decision that I'm not mentally healthy enough for something like this.  I seem to have control issues that center around how I've had so much taken away from me by other people all throughout my life.

Yes, I'm admitting it.  I'm a fucking control freak.

But I'm not saying that to ask forgiveness or anything as such, because I know that's not how real life works.  Real life doesn't want forgiveness.  It wants penance.  So instead, I'm only saying this so you understand why I've come to this decision.

I'll be leaving the project.  You guys get to own it now and do as you please.

But I don't want my character involved, even in a past-tense.  None of the stories I wrote will exist anymore.  The San Antonio residence can still exist.  But it will be a different person there, with different stories, and maybe even different residents because I know some people wanted to call dibs on others.

That's my condition.  You will have to come up with another character, maybe even more than one, to take Benjamin's place, and then retcon everything else.  No, not even filing the serial numbers off will suffice.  It has to be someone else entirely who behaves entirely different from me.

I don't even want any writing credit.  I don't want any association with this anymore because it's caused me to hurt that much.

I know you think I'm being immature, but consider this: I haven't been able to do the setting much justice with my character because I've been making him a Mary Sue.  So it's better that you have a character that is "perfectly imperfect" in his place instead.  Even if my writing has a certain style and energy that others seem to appreciate, it doesn't make up for the fact that I wrote Benjamin like that.  And apparently I'm incapable of separating myself from the SI.

Personally, I thought that was part of what made it so good.  I'm eccentric in that I like to believe that in all reality, somewhere out there is this other version of me.  And part of why I was able to hit everyone so hard in the feels is because I was able to associate that closely with my self-insert and convey the things I feel through him.

But I guess that's only good enough if most of all the other characters hate you.  Which really hurts when you associate that closely with your SI and you don't know any other way of doing it.

Please don't make this any harder on me than it is.  This is going to be like killing part of myself, and not in a healthy way.  And as things are right now?  I have too much to do, and not enough time.  And I'd rather get this done as quickly as possible.]]>