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  Homeland Security and TSA At Their Best
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 07-12-2010, 03:39 PM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun - Replies (6)

White woman repeatedly detained for being a black man at Canadian border crossings.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Six Things From History...
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 07-12-2010, 03:04 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (14)

...that everyone pictures incorrectly.
I actually knew three of these.  How about you?
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Son of a B-----! F------ Great Science!
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 07-12-2010, 03:02 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (4)

The Periodic Table of Swearing.
(NSFW, in case it ain't freakin' obvious.)
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Say what? On *CNN*?
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 07-12-2010, 03:01 PM - Forum: General Chatter - No Replies

Puppet covers NYC fire for CNN.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Free verse of the day
Posted by: classicdrogn - 07-11-2010, 05:11 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (5)

Saw a license plate today

It was L 0 5 3 R

It was on a Cadillac

so I think that was a lie

This has been today's free verse

(rimshot)

- CD
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"Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles
woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows

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  Challenge - describe this image, in-setting
Posted by: robkelk - 07-11-2010, 04:46 AM - Forum: Fenspace - Replies (4)

I just put a picture on http://www.fenspace.net/index.php5?title=Lalande_21185]this page. What is it a picture of?
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

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  Amused GR thought of the day...
Posted by: Matrix Dragon - 07-10-2010, 01:21 PM - Forum: The Legendary - Replies (6)

Recluse is about to discover that Marcus Cole can be a far better head of state then he ever will :lol

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  Dragon Age II Announced
Posted by: Evil Midnight Lurker - 07-10-2010, 04:29 AM - Forum: General Chatter - No Replies

Initial announcement here.
This time they're backing off from the full-spectrum-main-character model of Origins and going for the Mass Effect version.  The main character is a fully-voiced human named Hawke, a survivor of the Lothering massacre early in DA:O, who fled to the city-states north of Ferelden.
But we'll be able to customize gender, appearance, and backstory (and, I hope, first name) after the manner of Commander Shepard.  And the story will take place over a period of ten years, with our choices shaping the entire plot every step of the way.
...Lurker approves. Smile
--Sam
"We're from the government!  WE WANT THAT MOUSTACHE!"

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  [RFC][META][Philosophical] AIs Based on Characters
Posted by: robkelk - 07-10-2010, 03:57 AM - Forum: Fenspace - Replies (38)

Because of http://drunkardswalkforums.yuku.com/topic/7226]the recent heat wave, I haven't been getting as much sleep this week as I usually do. Thus, my heat-addled brain is also mildly sleep-deprived... and that leads me to free-associate quite a bit, but doubt the quality of the conclusions I come up with. So I offer this as something that I ask everyone to poke as many holes in as possible.



Aside from the classification systems in http://www.fenspace.net/index.php5?titl ... telligence]the FenWiki article, there are two kinds of AIs in Fenspace: the ones who are based on existing fictional characters, and the ones who aren't.

This article isn't about the ones who aren't.

Most of the AIs who are based on existing fictional characters were created that way on purpose - Lebia, Yayoi, Nene, Catty, and many others are in this group. However, some of them weren't - Trigon, Buckaroo, Gina, and Haruka are examples here. Where did the baseline personality and skillset come from for the ones who weren't? (Gina is Gina because Ben was watching Evangelion on the computer he handwaved. But the others don't have that justification... and Gina could just as easily have been Misato, Rei, or Shinji. Likewise, Haruka could have been any of the other Senshi.)

Alternate realities containing people known as fictional characters in Fenspace were proven to exist in mid-2013. Also, part of the deCamp-Pratt hypothesis of multi-world existance (as described in the early "Harold Shea" stories) is that writers subconsciously tap into alternate realities and describe what happens there.

Putting these together...

What if the process of 'waving an AI into existance to be a particular character taps into that multiversal subconscious and copies the skills and personality traits from that character's mind? This would explain why AIs have skills that their parents don't (such as Yayoi's piloting skill and fluency in Japanese), and why they're sometimes not expected (such as Gina and Buckaroo's very existance).

The more work a person puts into getting an AI "just right", the more likely the copy will be from the particular version of the work desired by the person, but there's no guarantee that a particular AI won't be "contaminated" by fanfic (or canon, depending on preferences). Somebody 'waving Akane Tendo into existence after reading fanfic might get a homicidal maniac or Great Detective Akane instead of the "real" Akane. Somebody 'waving Xander Harris into existance might get the Everyman from early Buffy or the Marty Stu from so many Buffyfics.

Given this, what's happening inside the AI's head before he or she "wakes up"? Gina's origin provides a clue here - the AI has knowledge of him-, her-, or itself, but no knowledge of the outside world. This can be traumatic, or it can be forgotten when the AI first gains the ability to communicate with the outside world. If an AI was to retain some of those pre-awakening memories, it might be a very different person than expected...



There should be more here - this ends abruptly - but my mind is heat-addled and mildly sleep-deprived... Am I even on the right track here?
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

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  i18 "Shades of Grey" announced
Posted by: OpMegs - 07-09-2010, 09:12 AM - Forum: The Legendary - Replies (9)

Quote:Issue 18: Shades of Gray Overview
The eighteenth free expansion for City of Heroes® introduces major new game upgrades and is the milestone for the release of the content in the City of Heroes Going Rogue™ expansion.
Tips System
The Tips System gives players a new way to find missions. During play, foes Level 20 or higher may drop notes or clues, or offer information. These Tips start new mission arcs, allowing characters to face new opponents and challenges.
One Auction House for All
Players of all alignments, whether they are Heroes, Villains, Vigilantes, or Rogues, can now use any Wentworth's Consignment House or Black Market venue.
Trading Between Alignments
Heroes and Villains can now trade Inspirations in co-op zones. Players can even mail certain items to their own characters using the global email system.
Mission Architect Additions
With the inclusion of doppelgangers, your character can now fight against himself or herself!
New Hardware Support
City of Heroes now supports Alienware AlienFX®.
Cathedral of PainIssue 18: Shades of Gray reintroduces the long-awaited Cathedral of Pain Trial. The Cathedral of Pain is the name of one of the strongholds of Ruularu the Ravager, a cosmic entity with unimaginable powers. Inside the heavily defended Cathedral of Pain, Ruularu is attempting to pierce the barrier between his realm and our reality. If he succeeds, Ruularu gains ultimate power, and our dimension will be obliterated.
Only you and your allies can stop Ruularu.
The Cathedral of Pain is one of the most challenging trials in City of Heroes. Up to 24 Level 35 to 50 characters can work together to take down the Soldiers of Ruularu, Psionic Resonators, and ultimately an aspect of Ruularu himself. You have only one hour to complete your mission.
If your group manages to stop Rularuu's insane scheme, your courage will be rewarded! You can earn Merit Rewards, or even earn a rare badge to celebrate this epic victory. But be on guard--Ruularu will return.
http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/game_ ... rview.html
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"Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay
waste."

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