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Calling out Florin - There Will Be Dragons
John Ringo, Baen and Nazis
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Thanks for the overviews of the work.
As I said I never read his books, I've tried a few of the free samples Baen supplies, but they have never interested me enough to make me want to buy a pure Ringo book.
I have purchased some of the shared works he has written with other writers and enjoyed them.
I like that about Baen their large free samples or even complete books has certainly made it easier for me to find a book
From the overviews it sounds like Mr. Ringo might have been trying to use the Nazis in some byplay way, but got lost in the presentation.
That's part of the reason I've never liked stories that use Swiftian parable or other types of byplay.
Unless the writer is very gifted he and the reader gets lost in the presentation.
Another reason I don't like such byplay is that they often have a short shelf life and focus on such a narrow segment of society that people outside it or not fully versed in the background can understand it.
Speaking of background does anyone know if Mr. Ringo came from a military background?
The few free samples I've read seemed in my opinon to have the feel of a veterian discharge after a few years of hard experiences.
Over the years I've seen several book reviews that seemed focused more on putting down Baen than actually reviewing the book publisher.
I ignore such thinly biased reviews.
Personally I've always admired and enjoyed the very large free samples and even entire books Baen supplies.
This large free sample policy is nearly unique in publishing and has served me well. It has prevented me from buying books I'd have regretted wasting money on and has caused me to buy books that I'd passed up and missed the enjoyment of.
The large free samples has generated a certain about of loyalty toward Baen and when I have money to spend on books their selection is always checked first.
If Mr. Ringo was using the Nazis as an example of good fighters or warriors I have to disagree with that.
I agree with M Fnord I think the Nazis aren't good at fighting. What the Nazis were good at was making people feel good about themselves and rallying people to a single focused cause and goal.
This tight focus on a single cause and goal can be powerful, but in the Nazi movement it comes at a very great price and cost to the minds of the leaders and followers. They are ultimately made blind to the thier own faults and weakness.
The Nazis movement with it's master race core made the leaders and many of the German people blind to thier own flaws and faults.
To the Nazis's they were never wrong or at fault, it was always something or someone elses weaknesses or faults. Such as the Jews, Gypsies, the people you have just conquered or even the enemy's so called cheating, which guided them into a inward turning spiral of ever deeper hatred and blindness that made certain they would lose the war.

howard melton
God bless
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Messages In This Thread
Calling out Florin - There Will Be Dragons - by Kokuten - 12-23-2006, 07:44 AM
Calling out Florin - by hmelton - 12-23-2006, 09:35 AM
Re: Calling out Florin - by M Fnord - 12-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Re: Calling out Florin - by drakensis - 12-23-2006, 10:30 AM
Re: Calling out Florin - by Florin - 12-23-2006, 11:36 AM
John Ringo and Baen - by Elsa Bibat - 12-23-2006, 04:54 PM
John Ringo, Baen and Nazis - by hmelton - 12-23-2006, 08:52 PM
Nitpicking - by Bluemage - 12-23-2006, 10:18 PM
Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by ordnance11 - 12-23-2006, 10:19 PM
Re: Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 11:36 PM
Re: Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by Kokuten - 12-24-2006, 12:11 AM
Re: Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by M Fnord - 12-24-2006, 12:55 AM
Strategy and Tactics - by ordnance11 - 12-24-2006, 03:23 AM
Re: Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by Acyl - 12-24-2006, 03:52 AM
Re: Trigger words and the Waffen SS - by Florin - 12-24-2006, 07:40 AM
Trigger words and et al. - by Elsa Bibat - 12-24-2006, 02:04 PM
Re: Calling out Florin - by drakensis - 12-24-2006, 02:30 PM
re:Trigger words and et al. - by ordnance11 - 12-24-2006, 10:20 PM
Re: re:Trigger words and et al. - by Elsa Bibat - 12-25-2006, 05:32 PM

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