Quote:Great Examples. Not really applicable yet. To the best of my knowledge, despite all the filler there hasn't been that kind of huge diveragance, and certainly not during/before the wave country arc (part of why I chose such an early scene). Also it is quicker to find the relevent scenes in manga than anime. My apologies.
That's nice... however... no. First I was speaking of the anime... so telling me that I should go read the manga is not really a useful comment. See the differences in Berserk, Full Metal Alchemist, Slayers, etc... for reasons why.
Quote:The point you were making as I read it was simply that chakra techniques make the existance of non-chakra medical technologies illogical, but can every medic perform to the level that makes that equipment unnecessary? When you know that there is some way of doing something, but can't do it yourself because of physical limitations, you begin to look for alternate methods. The scanning equipment at least could potentially be reverse engineered from the technique; we have no way of knowing as they do not explain how the chakra techniques work.
You also are blatantly ignoring my point as a matter of logic. First of while having all that diagnostic computer equipment would technically save chakra... it makes no sense to be there in the first place.
The only reason the mudball your standing on has and MRI or a CAT scan is Star Trek fanboys.... as Star Trek (let alone TV) is something I've never seen in Naruto I'm going to have to disagree. The Tech tree is stupidly wrong in the world of Naruto for computers and medical scanning tech that aren't integrated into anything socially.
Quote:I wasn't wondering 'why don't they have guns' 'cause this is largely my thinking too on that issue, was just pointing out things that seemed to be explicitly /not/ there.
Lacking Star Trek the drive to make all this fantasy tech is different. They have Chakra Tech. Jutsu are Tech, just like electronics. Naruto's world is loaded with niija. That is why you don't see guns. Throwing weapons and elemental jutsu are far more useful than any musket around there. So guns are too weak a tech to develop for the ninja. Tanks were WWI terror weapons... slow, clunky, but got past all that annoying barbed wire and over some of those annoying trenches to some extent. Barbed wire was there to stall people for long enough to mow down with machine guns. No machine guns... no barbed wire, no tanks.
When you can outrun any early motorized vehicle, development by the military is not going to get funding.
Quote:Episode 7, around the 8 minute mark. The small boat they arrived on has a gas motor. (or at least a pull start combustion of some kind) the earliest general tech levels I can give credence to are 1920sish. Particularly as Naruto has a fridge, an electric kettle, mass produced milk, and instant ramen. (Ref: Episode 3, around shortly after intro)
The tech I've seen is all late 1800s or earlier. Except those two systems with monitors. Even the high tech ships Gaara took out in a filler movie were steam ships (as I've been told anyway). As I said the two examples of higher level electronics tech are random and spring forth from nowhere.
Also, double check the Tsunade retrieval arc. In the manga at least there are all kinds of things, from slot machines, to neon lights.
Quote:Neither of which I meant to suggest were available (saying "that the tech levels are about equal to ours" was a pretty huge gaffe I admit.)
I'm sure nukes and Gundams would be useful to the ninja... it doesn't mean that they are going to get/think of them. No regardless of the usefulness of such item, there existence is not explained or logical.
Quote:'Electric Scoreboard' So quite possibly. However a scene or three before that had the hokage and others looking at video screens to see Team 7 enter the tower.
It could also be me, but I only remember the 'electronic scoreboard' having two names on it at once... and they wrote down the results... so I'm not sure is calling it a scoreboard makes sense. Electronic... I'll take your word for it I guess... but I doubt its more powerful that game show tech from the 1970's... I'd more believe it was two spinning semi round shapes with the names on them... during the matches the pins are retracted or pulled off so the names don't come up again. Mechanical in other words. That and a single lightbulb would make it and 'electronic scoreboard'.
Quote:Books and (at least semi)modern paper are actually scattered all throughout the series if you actually pay any real attention to the background. Just rewatch episode 2. (10 minute mark they're in a bookstore for crying out loud!)
Also... the only mass produced boosk I can recall is a little orange porn book and as far as I know it could be hand written. So printing presses are iffy, let alone a keyboard... spontaneously generated Kabuto keyboard aside. I doubt they even have modern paper as they don't have a crushed rock industry to support the road building.
Quote:Aside from a few video monitors and such, the only place I've seen such technology is in the hospitals. But it is consistantly in the hospitals. (at least manga, my anime collection only goes to ep 24 sadly)
I realize that this is getting off thread topic... but spontaneous electronic genesis is just plain terrible as an exclamation. 'Kabuto said, "Let there be electronic devices decades or more ahead of the tech curve!" and there was... and it came with a 4,000+ page manual, being the cannon explaination.
I'll drop it after your rebuttle, as it is rude for us to continue hi-jacking the thread.