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All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XVII
RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XVII
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(09-10-2020, 09:32 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 08:43 PM)GethN7 Wrote: The Netflix Internet Defense Force later tried to whitewash it into this:

While you may be right, I'd rather not trust anonymous reports.  As Rob and I have both noted, there are and always have been elements who are never above exaggerating and outright lying about a film's content in order to justify censorship.  I have seen the most innocent moments painted as explicit sexuality by some of these "crusaders".  What you portray as "whitewashing" here may well be replacing deliberate misrepresentation with a more accurate summation of the content.

I think we all know just from ATT that "first to post" does not equal "most authoritative source".

I'm also going to trust to the enlightened self-interest of Netflix and their lawyers.  Genuine child pornography would never get on the service simply because they'd immediately become a target of every jurisdiction they transmitted to.  Their own legal and standards departments would never put the corporation at risk in that way.  If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it, but I'm feeling the way to bet here is that the whitewash is on the accusation side, not the filmmakers' side.

I'm willing to risk quite a bit on the position I've staked out, and if you want to find the uncensored footage to verify what I said, feel free to legally stick your neck out (though I advise against it), I have every reason to believe you WILL come away feeling incredibly soiled. While I have studiously avoided trying to hunt down the raw, uncensored footage, I have found more than one account from bipartisan sources on multiple fora willing to risk things legally coming away absolutely repulsed as having viewed what any rational person would called child porn. Multiple countries have either banned it outright or banished it to being rated as adult as possible to the point no theater has the legal right to show it.

It's so bad, to my knowledge, that 4CHAN AND ENCYCLOPEDIA DRAMATICA both refuse to allow uncensored clips and even most stills, even to show how bad it is, with immediate promises to ban anyone for child porn, and when internet troll sites take that kind of moral stance, I have every reason to believe them when they drop all pretense of joking and say with unvarnished seriousness it's legally beyond the pale.

Based on a DuckDuckGo search (which filters searches through an anonymizer so I get no particular bias based on previous searches), there is an overwhelming amount of bipartisan sources that will condemn this movie as child pornography, and while defenders insist it's a "right-wing" conspiracy trying to smear the content, there is more than enough evidence I've seen from all sides of the political aisle there is fire to justify the smoke.

I reiterate I am usually willing to be openminded from a legal and objective standard even if something is morally vile, and I would not even begin to not even consider giving something the time of day if I believed it legally was defensible, but in this case, I will IMMEDIATELY resign my position over All The Tropes on Miraheze rather than be known as something who gave the mere pretense of allowing coverage of this.


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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XVII - by GethN7 - 09-11-2020, 03:14 AM

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