(08-11-2022, 08:28 AM)robkelk Wrote:(08-10-2022, 11:16 PM)Norgarth Wrote:
Somebody tell these people that "running water, Internet, and an insanely high food supply" were all created by governments spending massive amounts of tax money on these projects after private companies either could not or would not do so. In short, they're all the results of socialism.
Arguably not the insanely high food supply, although the farm subsidy program does facilitate it, not necessarily in beneficial ways. IIRC, despite the Dust Bowl, food prices collapsed during the Depression due to overproduction with the result that lots of farms across the country and not just in Dust Bowl territory folded. The original subsidy program was intended to prop up prices which it did in two ways. One was the government would buy a certain amount of food at a guaranteed minimum price for emergency stockpiles. The other was that the government would pay farmers not to plant specific fields, something that Heinlein makes fun of in Time Enough for Love. The funny thing is, I suspect that paying farmers to not plant every field served a second function as a soil conservation/flood control measure. Capitalism would never give consideration to such things (and, AFAIK, Heinlein was never a farmer).
I don't know exactly how the farm subsidy program works now, but I get the impression that it favors grains and soybeans over other crops that might be more nutritionally important to the average person, which is why corn syrup and soy are in practically everything.