Combat hyping—problem solved. Okay. I can work with that. If he’s not ultrafast (as it pertains to supers), maybe just a Basic Speed of 9, and some good 8-10 levels of Enhanced Dodge.
As another point, Doug does not need “Improvised Forms” as he cannot change what the individual template does to him.
Nah, that’s not necessary. The mechanics of how he does it are separate from the special effects. What matters is how effective is it? If it’s generally going to work, then it’s just a higher level. If it’s kinda hinky, it’s a lower level.
But does doesn’t know any of the templates. He knows what the songs do, but Doug cannot control them. If you take away his helmet and earplug, he’s at the mercy of what’s playing. Doug cannot choose to activate Another One Bites the Dust without hearing it. He doesn’t have it memorized, he must have it played. Therefore, he has the limitation. He cannot use the power without outside assistance. All it would take to separate him from his ability is the removal of his helmet, or a deafness affliction.
Separate your special effects from your mechanics. Just because Doug knows what a thousand different songs can do for him, doesn’t help him if suddenly he’s cut off from music. It would be no different from someone who kept a hair sample of everyone he ever met (I actually know someone that OCD) to use their powers and abilities.
Just having Morph gives Doug access to any template that the GM chooses to make available to him. He doesn’t need Cosmic for that. No, he has Cosmic in his Morph so that he can have it generate powers when they wouldn’t normally exist.
But, just for clarification, I'm asking Kromm. As I'm not that familiar with Morph, and, well, he is.
Yeah, I’m a moron sometimes.
As a separate point, I agree that he may have Ultra Power, but he does not need it as it pertains to his musical ability.
Ah, sorry. I do that sometimes.
As for the FP issue, I’m perfectly fine saying that it doesn’t cost Doug any FP. The GM can charge people FP for prolonged combat, or prolonged use of abilities anyway, and that sounds like what is happening to Doug. Sure, it’s tiring, but not on the same scale as costs FP. If Bob says it isn’t important, I’m going to agree with him.
I was pegging Doug as having a HT of 14 with Very Fit, myself. That gives him a general roll of 16, and extremely fast FP recovery anyway.
As another point, Doug does not need “Improvised Forms” as he cannot change what the individual template does to him.
Bob Schroeck Wrote:Back to the resurrection question, it occurs to me that it's again a matter of how we approach it. Even in the original campaign it's a theurgic effect -- he doesn't resurrect, he contacts some supernatural entity who can and basically whines and begs and makes a deal until they do the raising. So using it as a benchmark is probably wrong; it probably is closer in cost to casting a resurrection spell. (As in, magery + prereqs + cost of the spell itself.)
Nah, that’s not necessary. The mechanics of how he does it are separate from the special effects. What matters is how effective is it? If it’s generally going to work, then it’s just a higher level. If it’s kinda hinky, it’s a lower level.
Shepherd Wrote:Doug's powers are significantly more awesome than those of Photocopier-Guy, as Doug knows hundreds of power templates. Doug is not operating under a limitation, much less a -50% limitation; his power has (at least) one major enhancement. Since the Cosmic enhancement lets you break the rules in specific ways, a +50% to the power cost could give Doug an unlimited number of possible forms in his power catalog. Since listening to songs (which can be accomplished with an iPod) is much easier that seeing/touching specific beings, that would probably count as a seperate +20% enhancement.
But does doesn’t know any of the templates. He knows what the songs do, but Doug cannot control them. If you take away his helmet and earplug, he’s at the mercy of what’s playing. Doug cannot choose to activate Another One Bites the Dust without hearing it. He doesn’t have it memorized, he must have it played. Therefore, he has the limitation. He cannot use the power without outside assistance. All it would take to separate him from his ability is the removal of his helmet, or a deafness affliction.
Separate your special effects from your mechanics. Just because Doug knows what a thousand different songs can do for him, doesn’t help him if suddenly he’s cut off from music. It would be no different from someone who kept a hair sample of everyone he ever met (I actually know someone that OCD) to use their powers and abilities.
Just having Morph gives Doug access to any template that the GM chooses to make available to him. He doesn’t need Cosmic for that. No, he has Cosmic in his Morph so that he can have it generate powers when they wouldn’t normally exist.
But, just for clarification, I'm asking Kromm. As I'm not that familiar with Morph, and, well, he is.
Shepherd Wrote:That would be an Accessibility limitation.
Yeah, I’m a moron sometimes.
Shepherd Wrote:While he may not need a power check to use a song, Doug almost certainly has Ultra Power anyway. It easily explains the times he pushes a particular song past its regular limits (ie. his use of White Wedding during the Bubblegum Crisis step). Ultra Power is also useful for acts of superheroics that don't involve his music powers. Since he has the advantage anyway, it also makes a good mechanism for forcing a new power song to manifest during combat.
As a separate point, I agree that he may have Ultra Power, but he does not need it as it pertains to his musical ability.
Shepherd Wrote:You misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about applying a cost reduction to the Morph "template". I was comparing the cost of Morph + Template to the cost of Modular Abilities (cosmic power). Since that advantage is worth ten points per level and the biggest discount you can get on an advantage is -80%, the minimum cost of Modular Abilities (cosmic power) winds up as twice the cost of Doug's most expensive template. Unless the cost of Morph winds up higher than Doug's most expensive template (highly unlikely), Morph is the cheaper way to go.
Ah, sorry. I do that sometimes.
As for the FP issue, I’m perfectly fine saying that it doesn’t cost Doug any FP. The GM can charge people FP for prolonged combat, or prolonged use of abilities anyway, and that sounds like what is happening to Doug. Sure, it’s tiring, but not on the same scale as costs FP. If Bob says it isn’t important, I’m going to agree with him.
I was pegging Doug as having a HT of 14 with Very Fit, myself. That gives him a general roll of 16, and extremely fast FP recovery anyway.