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Plot summary, including a giveaway of the ending, on furinkan.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDJgxSyhsI
For however long it lasts.... someone has the full movie up on youtube.
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If it's available in a fullscreen mode, it should be savable as MP4, as I understand it -- and of course there are utilities out there to do the saving, too.
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I have just watched this thing in softsubs....and....in my opinion, it is complete and total garbage. It's like someone took some random episodes and scenes from Ranma 1/2, haphazardly strung them together, and then added a plotline that Go Nagai DISCARDED from either Cutie Honey or Kekko Kamen. And then, to finish it off, sodomized the ENTIRE thing with a Jackhammer.
And while we're on the subject of anal rape, lets talk a bit about the plot.
Ranma comes to town looking for the Tendo Dojo. Not because his father is visiting a friend. Not to claim his fiance. No because his father told him that the Tendo Dojo has the Mystical Spring that will cure his curse. Which it does....or at least a map to the location. That's right folks, less than 15 minutes in, and we're starting a variation on the old "Japanese Nannichuan" plotline that was done in the mange and dragged out for 3 episodes in the anime. The Vice Principal also wants the sping. For he is, in fact, in reality, the Criminal Underworld boss know as "Madame Kamanbell" with his gang of refugees from the Blue Oyster Bar from the Police Academy Movies They're even called the Drag Queens. His goal is to use the water to turn all the Beautiful women of the world into men, making it a "perfect world". That's right, the entire plot is one ginormous GAY JOKE. And a bad one.
So while we're subjected to an hour an a half of Ranma and the Drag Queens going at it to find the spring first, we also have to endure a remade rehash of highlights from essentially the first 20+ Episodes of Ranma. Including Ranma's 1st and second street fight with Kunou, Meeting Dr. Tofu, Akane's haircut from hell (given by one of the Drag Queens this time, as this movies doesn't include Ryoga, the Amazons, or any other minor character in the main series that made you give a damn) and Ranma's first kiss...accidentally given by Kunou this time. As well and Kunou and Gosenkugi meeting and looking for Ranma's weakness.
We also have the subplot of Ranma being weaker in girl form. While partialy true in the anime and mange (Ranma lost some strength in the anime/mange, he also picked up additional speed), in this version there's no tradeoff, he's just weaker...so weak, in fact, he can't even fire off a Moko Takabisha....an attack he gets in this from day one!
And it largely ends just like the original episode. Spring no longer works, Ranma gets all depressed....end of story. In
addition to the above train wreck of a plot, we also have to deal with
the characterizations. Most of whome are either flandarized or are large
cases of "Did not do the homework", and special effects that came out
of Power Rangers.
All in all, I want my hour and a half back.
There is nothing redeemable about this thing. It's proof positive that
Rumiko Takahashi doen't give a firk bing blast and the Ranma franchise
anymore.
I'm disappointed, revolted and, disgusted by this whole thing.
I'm going to bed now, and pray to god my subconscious can expunge this horror from my mind.
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Ouch. Just... ouch. Many thanks for saving all of our sanity at the price of your own.
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Gah. And I was so looking forward to this.
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Found a review:
http://animediet.net/uncategorized/live ... y-to-spare
Not as negative as Ransan's, but far from gushing.
I was on Gtalk with Ran while he watched it.... an any time you have to take a break from something to watch the Abridged version is a bad sign.
And while I am no where near as big a fan as Ran... even I was slack jawed at how they missed stuff that even I vaguely knew about the anime.
So I'll be saving my cash and probably getting one of the Anime films instead. 
Yeah, I'll give it the benefit that the casting wasn't bad. However, in my opinion both the writing and directing ruined those characters.
Except I'll give the kudos to the actors for Ranma, Ranma-chan, and Akane. the Ranma actor was pretty much spot on except one scene I despised, and that was the writers fault, not his - though I will say he could have chosen to work out a bit more prior to the role. Akane was solid throughout. Ranma-chan I think was the weakest, but I couldn't tell if it was the writing or just her interpretation.
Soun was off. Normally the character of Soun Tendo tries to put on an air of stoicness or calmness, he frequently fails, but it more often the that it's usally crying or panic. Soun usually only shows happieness when he thinks Ranma and Akane are about ready to confess all. So this interpretation fo a Soun SMILING all the time kinda creeped me out.
Genma would have been okay, if not for the subtext added into the writing that he was a womanizer. Genma had his faults. Gluttony, Greed, and Sloth, but in NO part of the manga or anime was he ever suggested he cheated on his wife.
Kasumi is usually smiling and serene. I remember her only smiling twice in the whole hour and a half, and those times it felt fake. In a couple of early scenes she was also snarky, dur to the fact that I think the writers stole lines from Nabiki and gave them to her.
Nabiki....oh frar god. Nabiki was WRONG. To see the Ice Queen of Furinken High reduced to bar hostess was just....I sobbed.
Kuno was by and large okay, but he came off a bit "Menouish" (UY) sometimes, and too clever for his own good. They had also partially merged him with Mikado Sanzenen, and well *shudder*
Gosenkugi was okay, but there isn't much to that character in the first place. I thought the actor was a bit too tall.
Dr. Tofu - sigh. Reduced for Chiropractor to School Nurse, and Tofu's gentle nature was kinda lost as the actor attempted to ham it up in a few scenes.
All in all, I thought the characterizations were rather poor, and excepting the case of the three mains, were either flandarized or wound up a case of "Did not do the homework". If I had been cast as an anime or manga character, one of the first things I'd do is sit down and read/watch the original source material to help hone my characterization. These people obviously did not.
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08-14-2012, 06:00 AM
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Threadcromancy ho!
A subbed version can be found here.
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And why would I want to watch this again, Bob? My Ranma wallscrolls are STILL in the "dishonor" position that I put them in after the FIRST time I watched this.
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Well, I haven't seen it yet...
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Ransan Wrote:And why would I want to watch this again, Bob? My Ranma wallscrolls are STILL in the "dishonor" position that I put them in after the FIRST time I watched this. Some of us might want to see the trainwreck regardless. If only to go "if only..." and wish for better things.
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Quote:Kasumi is usually smiling and serene. I remember her only smiling twice in the whole hour and a half, and those times it felt fake. In a couple of early scenes she was also snarky, dur to the fact that I think the writers stole lines from Nabiki and gave them to her.
I haven't read enough of Ranma to judge fully, and haven't seen the anime at all, but I've read references that say she could be a bit snarky early in the manga ... and a bit I did read included one such moment. It was when Genma described to her the "Cat-Fist" training debacle, and said, more or less, "And with each failure, my heart was more torn up!" To which Kasumi replied, "Not to mention your son!"
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Oh yeah, the early manga Kasumi had a bit of a... well, "nasty" is a bit too strong a word, but "naughty" is too weak... streak in her. She rejected Ranma sight unseen for being too young, because "younger men bore me" (suggesting at least some experience with both younger and older men, and said with an outright scowl), and some of her early dialogue which many folks interpret as cheerful obliviousness could well be fairly subtle snark -- the infamous "violent maniac" line, for instance. And don't forget her reaction to the Cat-fist -- which was to pile kittens on Ranma.
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And let's not forget... that mallet that Akane loves to use originally belonged to Kasumi.
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Let's hope that Takahashi-sensei will put the full stop on any attempts like this in the future.
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I thought I read something about her having OK'd the script?
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That certainly appeared to be the case when I first posted about it.
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robkelk Wrote:And let's not forget... that mallet that Akane loves to use originally belonged to Kasumi. Um, Akane's mallet using is more or less a Fannon exaggeration. The only time I remember using a mallet in the anime was in the first movie where it is handed to her by Nabiki. And the only times I remember using one in the manga was on Genma. When Akane hit Ranma (and she only really did until about Ryugenzawa), she'd either hit him with her fists (or elbows), or with nearby available objects (i.e. Tables, Shinai, her weights, bookbag, etc.)
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Yup. Kasumi's actually the only one we see using it in the manga.
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Although I have some official artwork stashed away somewhere that shows Akane holding a mallet -- it's actually a pic of Ranma, as I recall, but he's against a white background with a repeating pattern of little black-and-white images of the fiancees -- I specifically remember Ukyou with the jar of special sauce, and Akane in a bit of a combat crouch with a big mallet in her hands.
However, the mallet thing is definitely off-topic for this thread. Let us respawn it elsewhere.
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