Crystal_Soldier (True Senshi)
Posted on April 16th, 2025
>>In all fairness, a Zig Medal and clusters for actions
Let's actually take a close look at this. A quick military history of Jet Jaguar for those who care..
Boskone War.
Serenitycon:
Rallied the Engle Gruppe. Took out anti-shipping missiles, by hand. Helped escort convoys fleeing the Convention to Gnarlycurl. Earned a Zig Medal for that. There's a lot of argument about this one.
Kentucky Incident.
Helped local authorities deal with a rogue mech, apparently routing out a Boskone presence. May have been her first TS op. Very little otherwise is known about it, just that she was present as an independent consultant.
Jusenkyou:
Outran her support. Discovered the trap and outran it. Then survived more than 2 days alone, unsupported in a Boskone Mad's research station taking on Berserkers and worse until linking up with Attim after she disposed of Rosebottom. Also a source of one of the more intimidating photographs of her.
The Steelyard:
Your Standard Asteroid Liberation mission. Led to the recovery of the only surviving Barbary-Class Boskone ship. Would later grow into one of the largest mines in Fenspace. The Panzer Kunst Gruppe, and anyone involved in the mission, are still receiving prize money from it to this day.
Shipwreck Island
Engel Gruppe infiltrated Boskone Shipyard undetected for over 12 hours. Mined every goddamned ship in the place, along with plenty in construction and detonated them at once. Along come the Roughriders to mop up the rest. Ballsy, considering how heavily armed the place was. More silverwear.
Boskone Prime:
Engel Gruppe Took down the main defensive grid, while the Kammers rescued the Professor as a distraction.
262 Messerchmidt
Boskone fighter production base. She apparently took on and defeated an entire squadron of fighter aircraft. Single handedly. There's probably more to that.
Ad to that at least two dozen more Convoy actions, rescue operations, thionite interdictions and escort missions. One apparently involved a handwaved Dalek.
Post War.
Nehallenia.
In hindsight, probably a Troubleshooter mission. Standard Thionite interdiction. Misses Naoko Sato. Captures Quattro – one of Agatha Clay's. One of the first survivor accounts of her in action, from a local Gliesbie who panicked and froze just in time to watch her friends get utterly obliterated. Sato or Quattro may have been the true target here.....
The Metaverse Incident.
Another TS mission. Friends of hers developed The Metaverse – former members of the Generos maintenance department.. They got in with an investor who turned out to be Boskone. The Boskone used it to train and brainwash the Wolkenritter.. They also tried to use it to destroy Genaros itself – saving the station meant letting the Wolkenritter escape. Apparently, she was winning the fight at the time.....
The Dreadnought.
Stopped a suicide drone aimed at Inner Haven station. With one kick.
Operation Starlight Breaker.
On call for Operation Starlight Breaker, covering the Atalante region. Was one of the fastest responder to an alert, usually alongside the Engel Gruppe but sometimes alone. Took part in at least thirteen interdictions, was first on scene five times, and on one occasion, was the only fighter on scene, against all four of them.
The Buster Corps.
Unleashed her inner Nonoriri against some unwitting Zwilnik's annoyed at a Roughrider's Pet-Project interrupting their badness. Using drone Zigs, she decimated them.
Triax Attack on Dragon Wagon II.
Almost certainly not a Troubleshooter mission. One of the biggest bounties in Fenspace history. Recovered a Triax executive responsible for performing involuntary psychosurgery on a Stellviacorp employee. And took on an entire squadron of Triax bombers, single handedly, and won.
Mercenary Attack on Frigga.
UBA hires a group of Mercenaries to go in hot on Frigga, telling them it's a standard assett recovery by force mission. 50 crack mercenaries are reduced to 5 in the space of about 2 minutes. Actual video footage of her in action was released. Survivor accounts are equally horrifying. (That's some true Gunnm-grade Ultraviolence). The video was linked above.
The possible Secret Agent.
Arcadia. Buying and handwaving an old Soviet Piece of Junk and turning it into a flying Glomar Explorer. Surveying the Titanic. Then Surveying Arcadia, landing under the Federation's nose claiming to be a science expedition. And digging up 8 tons of Gate Metal. Someone leaked it to Maico Tange, and the shit hit the fan. The Federation was pissed enough to get off their ass and actually issue a motion of censure. But if not for a special someone, nobody would ever have known.... whether that's a true troubleshooter mission or something more 'outside' I don't know.
- I dunno about you, but that's a fairly impressive list. And that's a short summary off wikipedia.
So yeah. Chances are there is far more to this than we're seeing publically.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 16th, 2025
>because her heart's in the right place?
Thus paving the road to hell, OMT
Or you can look at things without rose tinted goggles.
Boskone War.
[iJusenkyou:[/i]
Outran her support. - Because she was told to stop in case there was a trap. Which she then set off. Got two of her people killed. May have murdered a group of low level technicians who tried to surrender. But hey, we also beat Attim to Rosebottom and blew him up, so it's OK.
Shipwreck Island
Many of those working at Shipwreck Island were not volunteers..But hey, she stopped enemy cruisers being built, so it's OK.
Post War.
Nehallenia.
Panzer Kunst Gruppe. Against Gliesbies who've never held a gun. A complete seal-clubbing at best. A ruthless overmatch at worst. But hey, we captured Quattro, so it's OK. Even if we missed Naoko Sato because she went off half-cocked to rescue her partner.
The Metaverse Incident.
One of her friends went 'missing' rather than face the music for his crimes. But hey, she saved the station, so its OK.
Operation Starlight Breaker.
Often the first on-scene because she wouldn't wait for anyone else to formate up. It's a miracle she didn't get herself, or anyone else, killed. Which arguably, drangged out the Wolkenritter incident for months. She was able to fight them off, but couldn't finish them. But she did it all by herself, so it's OK.
Triax Attack on Dragon Wagon II.
Banned from one settlement. And given an official warning for interfering with a Bounty Hunter – aiding an escape from one Hunter, just to deliver the target to her Partner instead. But she fought off three bombers single-handedly, so it's OK.
Mercenary Attack on Frigga.
There's a reasonable force standard for a reason. This gets disturbingly close to the line. But hey, tt's her own home, so it's OK.
The possible Secret Agent.
Allowed some of her people to stand on the deck of the Titanic. The mind-numbingly stupid risk that was was noted by James Cameron – Titanic came within moments of claiming three more lives. Oh. And completely ignoring Federation law because it suited her. But that's OK too because what she did suited everyone else.
Oh, and apparently, they had a reactor fire on Frigga recently too – like a miniature Chernobyl. But that's fine because nobody died, and everyone followed procedures.
Not to mention antagonising the most unantagoniseable mundane country there was just to grab some 'cool' videos.
So, we've someone with a history of going off half-cocked, on a whim, with no real thought to the consequences. Or outright ignoring rules and regulations when it suits her, just because she thinks she right in the moment. She screws up. Sometimes people get hurt. She fixes it.
And it's alright because she's always able to unfuck the situation in the end, even if everyone misses out on the bigger prize because of it.
You let her keep getting away with it, and you're enabling her....
And this is the result.
Tagbar (Not a ripoff)
Posted on April 16th, 2025
>>none of us have actually talked with Jet or Lun
And until someone does, we're just going in circles
Needtocomeupwithaname (Fenspace Gargoyle) (Original Poster)
Posted on April 16th, 2025:
>>we're just going in circles
Agreed. There's been little to no new News to do anything more than rampant speculation and barking. Closest thing we have is the weekly Tokyo Gazette due tomorrow, which apparently will have several names from Frigga in it.
>>You let her keep getting away with it, and you're enabling her....
One gets the feeling that a lot of chickens are coming home to roost.
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Posted on April 16th, 2025
>>In all fairness, a Zig Medal and clusters for actions
Let's actually take a close look at this. A quick military history of Jet Jaguar for those who care..
Boskone War.
Serenitycon:
Rallied the Engle Gruppe. Took out anti-shipping missiles, by hand. Helped escort convoys fleeing the Convention to Gnarlycurl. Earned a Zig Medal for that. There's a lot of argument about this one.
Kentucky Incident.
Helped local authorities deal with a rogue mech, apparently routing out a Boskone presence. May have been her first TS op. Very little otherwise is known about it, just that she was present as an independent consultant.
Jusenkyou:
Outran her support. Discovered the trap and outran it. Then survived more than 2 days alone, unsupported in a Boskone Mad's research station taking on Berserkers and worse until linking up with Attim after she disposed of Rosebottom. Also a source of one of the more intimidating photographs of her.
The Steelyard:
Your Standard Asteroid Liberation mission. Led to the recovery of the only surviving Barbary-Class Boskone ship. Would later grow into one of the largest mines in Fenspace. The Panzer Kunst Gruppe, and anyone involved in the mission, are still receiving prize money from it to this day.
Shipwreck Island
Engel Gruppe infiltrated Boskone Shipyard undetected for over 12 hours. Mined every goddamned ship in the place, along with plenty in construction and detonated them at once. Along come the Roughriders to mop up the rest. Ballsy, considering how heavily armed the place was. More silverwear.
Boskone Prime:
Engel Gruppe Took down the main defensive grid, while the Kammers rescued the Professor as a distraction.
262 Messerchmidt
Boskone fighter production base. She apparently took on and defeated an entire squadron of fighter aircraft. Single handedly. There's probably more to that.
Ad to that at least two dozen more Convoy actions, rescue operations, thionite interdictions and escort missions. One apparently involved a handwaved Dalek.
Post War.
Nehallenia.
In hindsight, probably a Troubleshooter mission. Standard Thionite interdiction. Misses Naoko Sato. Captures Quattro – one of Agatha Clay's. One of the first survivor accounts of her in action, from a local Gliesbie who panicked and froze just in time to watch her friends get utterly obliterated. Sato or Quattro may have been the true target here.....
The Metaverse Incident.
Another TS mission. Friends of hers developed The Metaverse – former members of the Generos maintenance department.. They got in with an investor who turned out to be Boskone. The Boskone used it to train and brainwash the Wolkenritter.. They also tried to use it to destroy Genaros itself – saving the station meant letting the Wolkenritter escape. Apparently, she was winning the fight at the time.....
The Dreadnought.
Stopped a suicide drone aimed at Inner Haven station. With one kick.
Operation Starlight Breaker.
On call for Operation Starlight Breaker, covering the Atalante region. Was one of the fastest responder to an alert, usually alongside the Engel Gruppe but sometimes alone. Took part in at least thirteen interdictions, was first on scene five times, and on one occasion, was the only fighter on scene, against all four of them.
The Buster Corps.
Unleashed her inner Nonoriri against some unwitting Zwilnik's annoyed at a Roughrider's Pet-Project interrupting their badness. Using drone Zigs, she decimated them.
Triax Attack on Dragon Wagon II.
Almost certainly not a Troubleshooter mission. One of the biggest bounties in Fenspace history. Recovered a Triax executive responsible for performing involuntary psychosurgery on a Stellviacorp employee. And took on an entire squadron of Triax bombers, single handedly, and won.
Mercenary Attack on Frigga.
UBA hires a group of Mercenaries to go in hot on Frigga, telling them it's a standard assett recovery by force mission. 50 crack mercenaries are reduced to 5 in the space of about 2 minutes. Actual video footage of her in action was released. Survivor accounts are equally horrifying. (That's some true Gunnm-grade Ultraviolence). The video was linked above.
The possible Secret Agent.
Arcadia. Buying and handwaving an old Soviet Piece of Junk and turning it into a flying Glomar Explorer. Surveying the Titanic. Then Surveying Arcadia, landing under the Federation's nose claiming to be a science expedition. And digging up 8 tons of Gate Metal. Someone leaked it to Maico Tange, and the shit hit the fan. The Federation was pissed enough to get off their ass and actually issue a motion of censure. But if not for a special someone, nobody would ever have known.... whether that's a true troubleshooter mission or something more 'outside' I don't know.
- I dunno about you, but that's a fairly impressive list. And that's a short summary off wikipedia.
So yeah. Chances are there is far more to this than we're seeing publically.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 16th, 2025
>because her heart's in the right place?
Thus paving the road to hell, OMT
Or you can look at things without rose tinted goggles.
Boskone War.
[iJusenkyou:[/i]
Outran her support. - Because she was told to stop in case there was a trap. Which she then set off. Got two of her people killed. May have murdered a group of low level technicians who tried to surrender. But hey, we also beat Attim to Rosebottom and blew him up, so it's OK.
Shipwreck Island
Many of those working at Shipwreck Island were not volunteers..But hey, she stopped enemy cruisers being built, so it's OK.
Post War.
Nehallenia.
Panzer Kunst Gruppe. Against Gliesbies who've never held a gun. A complete seal-clubbing at best. A ruthless overmatch at worst. But hey, we captured Quattro, so it's OK. Even if we missed Naoko Sato because she went off half-cocked to rescue her partner.
The Metaverse Incident.
One of her friends went 'missing' rather than face the music for his crimes. But hey, she saved the station, so its OK.
Operation Starlight Breaker.
Often the first on-scene because she wouldn't wait for anyone else to formate up. It's a miracle she didn't get herself, or anyone else, killed. Which arguably, drangged out the Wolkenritter incident for months. She was able to fight them off, but couldn't finish them. But she did it all by herself, so it's OK.
Triax Attack on Dragon Wagon II.
Banned from one settlement. And given an official warning for interfering with a Bounty Hunter – aiding an escape from one Hunter, just to deliver the target to her Partner instead. But she fought off three bombers single-handedly, so it's OK.
Mercenary Attack on Frigga.
There's a reasonable force standard for a reason. This gets disturbingly close to the line. But hey, tt's her own home, so it's OK.
The possible Secret Agent.
Allowed some of her people to stand on the deck of the Titanic. The mind-numbingly stupid risk that was was noted by James Cameron – Titanic came within moments of claiming three more lives. Oh. And completely ignoring Federation law because it suited her. But that's OK too because what she did suited everyone else.
Oh, and apparently, they had a reactor fire on Frigga recently too – like a miniature Chernobyl. But that's fine because nobody died, and everyone followed procedures.
Not to mention antagonising the most unantagoniseable mundane country there was just to grab some 'cool' videos.
So, we've someone with a history of going off half-cocked, on a whim, with no real thought to the consequences. Or outright ignoring rules and regulations when it suits her, just because she thinks she right in the moment. She screws up. Sometimes people get hurt. She fixes it.
And it's alright because she's always able to unfuck the situation in the end, even if everyone misses out on the bigger prize because of it.
You let her keep getting away with it, and you're enabling her....
And this is the result.
Tagbar (Not a ripoff)
Posted on April 16th, 2025
>>none of us have actually talked with Jet or Lun
And until someone does, we're just going in circles
Needtocomeupwithaname (Fenspace Gargoyle) (Original Poster)
Posted on April 16th, 2025:
>>we're just going in circles
Agreed. There's been little to no new News to do anything more than rampant speculation and barking. Closest thing we have is the weekly Tokyo Gazette due tomorrow, which apparently will have several names from Frigga in it.
>>You let her keep getting away with it, and you're enabling her....
One gets the feeling that a lot of chickens are coming home to roost.
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Meta:
Trying to keep the flavour of a real discussion is hard
________________________________
--m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig?