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All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part V
 
Tennie Wrote:Here's something that I've noticed:

When I click on the "What links here" link under the "Tools" submenu (which serves a similar puropse to the "Related" page back over on TVT), I noticed two things:

First, the list seems to be arranged in no obvious order (is it "most recently added"?).

Second, the total number of pages is not obviously available.

For the first, I would suggest adding in (if possible) a feature that could allow one to select ways to order the entries (e.g. alphabetically).

For the second, perhaps place some text saying that "X" number of pages link to this article up near the top.

I hope that helps! Smile

That's something built into MediaWiki, and we don't have very much ability to customize it. They are both good suggestions, though.

(And I think the page order is by creation date.)
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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Did I forget to pay a bill, or some such? The freebie wiki is generating 404 errors instead of presenting pages - which is annoying because I was in the middle of editing a page when this started.

Also, where should I be reporting this sort of thing? I don't see a page for it on meta.orain.org
EDIT: I hope Forum:Support is the right place to post the trouble report, because that's where I posted it.

RE-EDIT: Isn't that always the case - file a trouble ticket and the trouble disappears.

RE-RE-EDIT: ... and it's back.

(And speaking of paying a bill ... I still haven't heard anything through official channels about the Indiegogo campaign.)
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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robkelk Wrote:Did I forget to pay a bill, or some such? The freebie wiki is generating 404 errors instead of presenting pages - which is annoying because I was in the middle of editing a page when this started.

Also, where should I be reporting this sort of thing? I don't see a page for it on meta.orain.org
EDIT: I hope Forum:Support is the right place to post the trouble report, because that's where I posted it.

RE-EDIT: Isn't that always the case - file a trouble ticket and the trouble disappears.

RE-RE-EDIT: ... and it's back.

(And speaking of paying a bill ... I still haven't heard anything through official channels about the Indiegogo campaign.)
 
Sent an email to Dusti inquiring about this.
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Whew!
I was on this afternoon and stumbled upon a serial page-blanker less than ten minutes after he created his account and went to work.  Cambrigo's vandalism has been reverted and he's been banned, and so far shows no signs of trying to hop right back on.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Bob Schroeck Wrote:I was on this afternoon and stumbled upon a serial page-blanker less than ten minutes after he created his account and went to work.  Cambrigo's vandalism has been reverted and he's been banned, and so far shows no signs of trying to hop right back on.
 
I was wondering when we'd get one of those fools. If anything, he's an idiot, since page blanking is very easily reverted on wikis, and all he did was just provide us another copy of the page content in a revision.

To quote ED on this one: "We would like to thank him for their support."
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And I come back 90 minutes later, try to refresh the recent changes page, and get an artsy-looking error page from Cloudflare:
Quote:Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
Error 522 Ray ID: 224ee3c9d46c0f21 • 2015-09-12 22:01:38 UTC
Connection timed out
Along with graphics that say Orain's to blame, basically.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Still throwing the same error two and half hours later.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Bob Schroeck Wrote:And I come back 90 minutes later, try to refresh the recent changes page, and get an artsy-looking error page from Cloudflare:
Quote:Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
Error 522 Ray ID: 224ee3c9d46c0f21 • 2015-09-12 22:01:38 UTC
Connection timed out
Along with graphics that say Orain's to blame, basically.
up again.
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And at exactly 10:15 PM EDT it went back down again, with the same error.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Bob Schroeck Wrote:And at exactly 10:15 PM EDT it went back down again, with the same error.
Got emailed by addshore with the possible issue, server space on one of our prod servers seems to be crapping out, looks like it's time for some server reshuffling to fix it again.

He said he'll be fixcing it once he get back to his laptop.
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That isn't the first time this month one of the wikis has has that sort of problem. Does Orain need more disk?
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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Actually, we discovered the issue sometime last night: Turns out some douche canoe tried DDoSing Orain again. Thankfully, DigitalOcean wasn't asleep at the wheel half as long and nullrouted the retard not long into their reign of terror, and we found and plugged the leak.

Do note that even though we now have security measures against this sort of crap, doesn't make it impossible if some idiot with a grudge and way too much free time is really determined, but they didn't do even a fraction of the damage they were intending now that we have safeguards.

If it happens again, I'll let you guys know.

Update: It happened again, we're currently identifying the source of the attack so it can be shunted off. In the meantime, bookmark this link:

http://ganglia.orain.org/ganglia/

You can see the memory usage for servers via this. If the values are frightfully high for bandwidth (as in, spiking to the ceiling for no real reason) on multiple servers but fine on other and Orain is down, you'll know we had another attack. FYI, prod 8/9 are currently our MW servers.
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Just how bad is the most recent attack? Orain appears to be completely offline now, except for ganglia (which shows zero http activity in the entire cluster in the last hour).
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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robkelk Wrote:Just how bad is the most recent attack? Orain appears to be completely offline now, except for ganglia (which shows zero http activity in the entire cluster in the last hour).
 
Some idiot seems to be randomly blitzkrieging every port of entry they can find, probably the same douche who had a grudge awhile back.

We're working on making it much harder for them to pull that off, and we're a tad reluctant to get everything back up just yet since we know this idiot is still hiding in the weeds to do it again at the moment.
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Is anyone else getting "Certificate Expired" errors or getting redirected to porn sites when trying to access Orain?
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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robkelk Wrote:Is anyone else getting "Certificate Expired" errors or getting redirected to porn sites when trying to access Orain?
 
Butthurt DDoSer trick #2: When DoS proves not a effective, try to poison the well by spoofing/redirecting the DNS certificate to another site.

As I said, whoever this retard is, they are certainly persistent.

 
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PRIORITY ONE: THIS IS VERY BAD NEWS!
I have some horrible news to report: Orain has been epically compromised, as in, raped to an absurd degree.

We were compromised at the server level, and all databases have been wiped. As in  sudo rm -rfed level wiped.

That includes ATT.

The GOOD news is that we have database backups from at least June 15th 2015, but all of Orain is utterly hosed.

I plan to ask for backups of our content as recently as can be obtained for importation to another wiki host, should we want to move elsewhere.

That aside, were still trying to assess the damage, but we definitely will need to pitch tents elsewhere for now.

I am definitely open to ideas guys, and as an Orain Staff member, I'm sorry I was unable to stop this at all.

FYI, JohnLewis is planning throwing us a rope here:

http://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze

I'm already in the process of working with John on getting us back up, but you guys, do me a favor:

Scrape every page source you can find off of the Wayback Machine for ATT Orain between June 2015-present as well as images. We have over 89% of the images already, but we'll have to do what ED did after Sherrod DeGrippo killed the original, just not to as severe a degree.

Also, checked, our new host is more stable and has more features for the same (free) price.
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HOLY SHIT!!! But who did that, and why?
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Another Troper Wrote:HOLY SHIT!!! But who did that, and why?
The same hacker who want to kill Orain before. This time they suceeded.

Good news is that I will not lie down and die, and John Lewis offered us a chance to be a phoenix from the ashes.
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John is already working on getting us set back up:

http://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/issues/108

Sign up for Miraheze here:

http://allthetropes.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Note; All database info for Orain was wiped, so you'll have to make new accounts here.
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GethN7 Wrote:I have some horrible news to report: Orain has been epically compromised, as in, raped to an absurd degree.

We were compromised at the server level, and all databases have been wiped. As in  sudo rm -rfed level wiped.

That includes ATT.

The GOOD news is that we have database backups from at least June 15th 2015, but all of Orain is utterly hosed.
...

I really, really hope three's something of the freebie wiki in there - because the Wayback Machine has only one page from my wiki.

If not, then over 2000 pages of content have disappeared.

Fuck.
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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robkelk Wrote:
GethN7 Wrote:I have some horrible news to report: Orain has been epically compromised, as in, raped to an absurd degree.

We were compromised at the server level, and all databases have been wiped. As in  sudo rm -rfed level wiped.

That includes ATT.

The GOOD news is that we have database backups from at least June 15th 2015, but all of Orain is utterly hosed.
...

I really, really hope three's something of the freebie wiki in there - because the Wayback Machine has only one page from my wiki.

If not, then over 2000 pages of content have disappeared.

Fuck.
There should be a backup by the WikiTeam, don't know how recent.

You can also trying scraping page sources off of the Wayback Machine.

Go here, set up an account, get your wiki created, and you can import the dump:

http://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze
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Our backups are three months old? Why the hell weren't they more recent?

And Miraheze gives me a timeout/pageload error. Methinks our asshole is reading this thread.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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Bob Schroeck Wrote:Our backups are three months old? Why the hell weren't they more recent?

And Miraheze gives me a timeout/pageload error. Methinks our asshole is reading this thread.
 
It's good, John was just rebooting the servers to add HHVM support when I posted that.

Anyway, if you want to scrape page content, start here:

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20150805 ... /Main_Page

And yeah, I'm pissed too.We can even have some of the features we couldn't have on Orain. I've even asked for periodic backups, told we could have them.

FYI, John has confirmed someone (likely the same guy who murdered Orain) is going after him, but he's got better security and their attempts are getting slapped down hard so far, and he's willing to pour on the money to keep things secure.
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Um. Asking the Wayback Machine for all archived pages under http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/ gets a page that reports "3,825 URLs have been captured for this domain." We had a whole hell of a lot more pages than that. I filtered the results on various capitalizations of "RWBY" and got nothing at all. Filtering on "RW" gets only three pages:

http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/My_N ... ot_Durwood
http://allthetropes.orain.org:80/wiki/Darwinia
http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Air ... scratchers

none of which are newer than November 2014.

The Wayback Machine is going to be mostly useless. Better to raid the Google cache while we can.
Edit:  I so did not need to learn about this today.  I've had a lousy week, a worse day, my lower back, left shoulder and head are all aching, and I am in the foulest mood.  Reading about this makes me want to just throw in the towel, especially if we lost three months' work.  And Miraheze is still throwing a pageload error on me.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
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