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  The Deal With Quincy
Posted by: Evil Midnight Lurker - 10-18-2003, 09:53 PM - Forum: Drunkard's Walk II: Robot's Rules of Order - Replies (22)

This is beginning to prey on my poor tired brain... surely between us we DW-fanboys can put it together...?
OK, what do we know?

-The Loon's name is Douglas Q. Sangnoir; Genom's CEO is James D. Quincy (see ch. 12). Doug used the alias "Quincy Black" when calling the cops shortly after his arrival. The "Black" clearly comes from Sangnoir ("black blood").
So far as I can tell from a search of the extant chapters, we have never been told what the Q. stands for (I don't think Bob's told us in the forum either). It is a short step from here to assume that Doug's middle name is Quincy, and Quincy's is Douglas... but those are only assumptions.
-Quincy knows a great deal about the Warriors--at absolute minimum, their real names, powers, and personalities--but has never seen at least one of them (Kat). If Warriors' World existed in some published fictional form in the BGC world, it seems likely that various people's searches would have turned this up by now--by accident if nothing else. But again, that's an assumption.
-Discussing a costume worn by Wetter Hexe, Quincy mentions designs by someone named "Elizabeth" (I can't find mention of this name in regard to the Warriors).
-In his youth (or, at least, earlier in his life), Quincy's attitude toward Doug's arrival would have been quite different:

Quote:
"Why now?" he muttered to himself. "Fifty years ago, even forty
years ago, I would have welcomed you. Why do you finally have to
come now?"
The "finally" part might--MIGHT--imply that Quincy was expecting this to happen sooner or later.
Again, the only explanation I can come up with that makes any sense at all is that Quincy was a V&V gamer in his younger years, and Doug was his character. (Or fill in "fanfic writer," or other such silliness.) But this fails to satisfy for dramatic and concrete reasons: dramatic because we know Doug won't discover the truth of the transfictional multiverse for some time yet and therefore he couldn't be allowed to have a nifty confrontation with his "creator," concrete because Bob, Ed, and Valles are guffawing at the idea. (Of course, Bob could have instructed his prereaders to laugh it off... damn I'm getting paranoid.)
If Quincy was from Warriors' World, surely he'd have known them by sight on top of everything else...
Then there's the question of his extreme health in semi-advanced age. Of course he might be a boomer, there's always been that theory (whether independent or remote-controlled by the ailing "real" Quincy). And his height. Tall, vigorous, charismatic... doubtful he's been Servant-Factored, his attitude toward Doug would probably be much different. (I imagine the programming there is more than just blind obedience to Manley; if that were the case, it'd be safe to let his pawns out of prison now that he isn't there to give them orders.)
I take it on faith that, this late in the game, enough clues are available to put it together properly. Maybe we're simply not recognizing some of them as clues...
--Sam Ashley
"Blood covers The City like a big red afghan."

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  Couple of questions about Doug's Powers
Posted by: Loki Laufeyjarson - 10-18-2003, 12:55 PM - Forum: The Game Everyone Loves To Play - Replies (1)

This aren't really ideas about songs that might bring powers, just some questions that have occured to me while thinking about the possibilties.
I understand, from what I have read, that Doug's powers require a song to have lyrics, that he (thinks) he understands, in order to gain new power and that he has no cotrol over activating a gift, once he hears a song.
- Does his power work for A Cappella songs? Could in emergency situations when he has no helmet get powers from comrades or supporters forming an impromtu chorus.
- Is Doug musically and could he trigger his own gift by perfoming a song?
- How does his talent define a song? Just one paticular recording of a song triggers the power? What about cover versions with the same lyrics? Is there any penalty that prevents him from just getting the longest running recording of a song.
- Continuing with the penalty idea: Are his powers simply on/off or do they come in degrees with 'stronger' powers for especially good recordings and 'weaker' versions if the quality of the recording or performace has been bad.
- From what I have read, the power starts with the first note of a song not with the lyrics. What about instrumental versions of a song or covers and parodies that sound the same up to a point?
-And finally since it is his subconsciousness that makes the decisions and not some external agent. Can he be fooled or fool himself into activating a power? Does it work if he only thing he hears a song? Telepathy, self-hynosis and so on.

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  Chapter 13 quick take *SPOILER INSIDE*
Posted by: Kokuten - 10-18-2003, 05:38 AM - Forum: Drunkard's Walk II: Robot's Rules of Order - Replies (1)

Quote:
"Dad," she said, looking back and up at him, "you remember Lisa
Vanette, don't you?"
"I certainly do," he rumbled. "How are you, Lisa-chan?"
"Oh, hi, Mr. Van V--" She stopped short as he held up a warning
finger and wagged it, smiling at her. "Bert. Sorry!"

*BWUAHAHAHAHA*
very good sir!Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979

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  A little New (Old?) Wave
Posted by: Berk - 10-18-2003, 02:34 AM - Forum: The Game Everyone Loves To Play - Replies (4)

Information Society - Peace & Love Incorporated
Look at the world
It's a complicated place
And it's hard to keep the pace
You've got to wear a smiling face
But what we've got
Is a blue-light special on truth
It's the hottest thing with the youth
You've got nerves we need to soothe
If you've got to believe in something
Believe in us cos we'll make it easy
Peace and Love, Incorporated
Shop around
See if you don't agree
We think it fits you to a "T"
And the best part is it's free
I believe
We got the market cornered this time
We can make you feel fine
It could impact your bottom line
If you've got to believe in something
Believe in us cos we'll make it easy
If you've got to belong to something
Belong to us and we'll make you PC
Peace and Love, Incorporated
Peace and Love
It's the newest cause by far
And we've got all the biggest stars
Get your politics up to par
If you've got to believe in something
Believe in us cos we'll make it easy
If you've got to belong to something
Belong to us and we'll make you PC
Peace and Love, Incorporated
Welcome... (Welcome...)
To Peace and Love, Incorporated
Welcome... (Welcome...)
To Peace and Love, Incorporated
Welcome... (Welcome...)
To Peace and Love, Incorporated

Now, I won't try to speculate on what this song might do for the Loon, but who knows, it might be something nice, and coming in at five minutes in length it might get him out of a pinch.
- Grumpy Uncle Gearhead

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  Re: Chapter 13 Is Now Available!
Posted by: Loki Laufeyjarson - 10-17-2003, 06:58 PM - Forum: Drunkard's Walk II: Robot's Rules of Order - Replies (17)

Great Chapter! But, over so soon. I want more !
minor-nitpick: Didn't Doug already discover the "KS" signature a few chapters ago?
Re: Quincy's relation to Loon.
I hadn't thought that Quincy might only have had second-hand knowledge of Doug before like it know appears. I like the explanation of Quincy having had contact with a fictional version of Dougs world.
And I already had myself convinced that Quincy was an older or alternate version of the dimension lost Doug. But I guess the part with Doug spontaneously calling himself Quincy Black upon arrival was some sort of red-herring.
Just out of curiosity what does the "Q" In Douglas Q. Sangnoir stand for, if not Quincy?

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  Update, 17 October 2003
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 10-17-2003, 06:55 PM - Forum: Website - Replies (2)

Not that I really need to tell anyone who's seen the DW2 forum this morning, but there is new material on the website. Chapter 13 of DW2 is up, with changes made to the main DW and DW2 Concordance pages.

-- Bob
---------
Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Chapter 13 Is Now Available!
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 10-17-2003, 02:18 PM - Forum: Drunkard's Walk II: Robot's Rules of Order - Replies (15)

Head to www.eclipse.net/~rms/dwmain.html for the new chapter and the revised and updated concordance. This is an exclusive for folks who read the forums -- I won't be posting the chapter to RAAC, the FFML and all the other usual places until later tonight.
Go to it folks, and enjoy!

-- Bob
---------
Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Obscurity from the Past!
Posted by: Herr Bad Moon - 10-17-2003, 01:38 AM - Forum: The Game Everyone Loves To Play - Replies (7)

Here's a song I got from my Dad while he was recording all of his old records onto mp3 format. This was part ease of use and part crumudgeony act of defiance to the RIAA. This song reminds me of Doug in a lot of ways, though I don't think he's very mercenary at all. Plus the spegetti western sound of it appeals to me.
Ballad of Paladin by Johnny Western. Theme song to the television show Have Gun Will Travel (1957).
Have Gun Will Travel reads the card of a man.
A knight without armor in a savage land.
His fast gun for hire head's the calling wind.
A soldier of fotune is the man called Paladin.
Paladin, Paladin where do you roam?
Paladin, Paladin, far, far from home.
He travels on to wherever he must;
A chess knight of silver is his badge of trust.
There are campfire legends that the plainsmen spin
Of the man with the gun,
of the man called Paladin
Paladin, Paladin where do you roam?
Paladin, Paladin, far, far from home.
Far from home.
Far from home.

Next up is one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite bands. It's got smirking glee written all over it and could be a nasty ranged attack.
Bottlerocket War by Pain
Never enough celebrating Independence Day.
It was never enough to celebrate the eve of New Years Day.
What about my friends and me, can we have our say?
Cuz all our many enemies need to be blown away.
Aint no sting like a bottlerocket burrowing
Deep into the side of your face.
And have you ever felt the big welt
That a Roman candle leaves in its place?
The woods in the neighborhood are worth getting put in jail.
Well fight em in the tunnels and well fight em in the swamps
And theyll never get past never gonna go!
Four Bics get flicked and the punks get lit.
We never asked if we should
Its a game, its a chore, its a bottlerocket war
And life never got so good.
Build a pile, everything we bought from Crazy Bill.
Crazy Bob, and Crazy Ken,
Theyd sober up if they knew about The Plan.
We got enough pyrotechnics to fill up a wagon
Like a Chinese party in the year of the dragon.
Im standing next to Poe and this is what he said:
Chuck can lift a manhole cover with his head!
(Here we go!)
Four Bics get flicked and the punks get lit.
We never asked if we should
Its a game, its a chore, its a bottlerocket war
And life never got so good.
Were just trying to have some fun.
Were not hurting anyone.
The lights burst like magic spells
And make a sweet sound like bells.
Four Bics get flicked and the punks get lit.
We never asked if we should.
Its a game, its a chore, its a bottlerocket war
And life never got so good.
Never got so GOOD.

And just because its silly, Unseen Tears of the Albacore by The Vandals. I'll put up the lyrics later maybe, but its a goofy song lamenting the fact that everybody loves dolphins but nobody cries for the tuna.
---
Jon
"And that must have caused my dad's brain to break in half, replaced by a purely mechanical engine of revenge!"

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  Ahoy hoy
Posted by: Herr Bad Moon - 10-17-2003, 01:09 AM - Forum: Introductions - Replies (1)

Hey all, I guess this is my cue to do the introduction thing.
Some might recognize a portion of my handle from the Eyrie forums, and I had to change it as when I tried to set up my account with ezboard I got the much beloved "your screen name has already been taken" text. After some failed attempts to get around this, I just threw up a the Herr as a nod to my german side of the family tree.
I've been watching anime since I was a kid, with Voltron and Robotech being the two biggies, though I do remember being enraptured by Unico to my chagrin. I didn't really get into it until about 1996 I think, when I was channel surfing and I landed Urusei Yatsura II: Beautiful Dreamer on the SciFi channel when they showed still showed anime at night. It was one of those serendipitous moments I'll always remember. One look at that flying girl in the bikini shooting lightning and it was all over.
I used to play DnD and Mechwarrior in junior high with my neighborhood friends but gradually quit in high-school due to lack of interest. We had fun but never had any serious campaigns so there wasn't anything to keep our interest. Now I'd wished I stayed into gaming, since I've been wanting to be a part of a group but can't find anybody I know in my local area to play with.
I found Drunkard's Walk after it was mentioned on the Eyrie boards and did some search engining till I found it. One weekend and eleven chapters later I thought it was safe to say I'd found another story to add to my all time favorites list. Doug's powers is one of the most creative and flat out fun things I've read in any series.
Now back to your regular boarding.Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the
frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses
and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid
deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."
---
Jon
"And that must have caused my dad's brain to break in half, replaced by a purely mechanical engine of revenge!"

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  A... different... song.
Posted by: Aleh - 10-14-2003, 09:38 PM - Forum: The Game Everyone Loves To Play - Replies (7)

The opening to the anime 'Popotan' (sorry, but I don't know the title of the opening theme) is something that would almost certainly give Doug a power... the question, of course, being *WHAT* that power is. Honestly, it would probably depend on the circumstances under which Doug first heard the song. More on that later -- first, the lyrics.
Ai, Ai, Ai, I love you,
Mai, Mai, Mai, My darling,
Mii, Mii, Mii, Help me,
Popotan, popotan, popotan,
Moshimo genki wo nakushite tohou ni kureta toki ni wa,
popotan no koe wo kikuno.
Souyo anata ga sunao ni natte kokoro wo hirakeba,
popotan wa oshiete kureru.
Ano hito ga kuru konai.
Watashi wo suki kirai.
Kono koi wa uso honto.
Donna koto mo shitteruno.
Moudame popopo, moudame popopo.
Wakatterukedo yamerarenaino.
Mou muri popopo, mou muri popopo.
Yume no yume demo akiramenaide,
Popotan.
Note that this is the short version -- while I have the lyrics for the long version, as well as the long version itself, I *DON'T* have a translation for it. Anyway, the English translation, partially taken from a fansub and partially done by myself, is as follows (stars indicate points in the translation that require comments.):
Ai, Ai, Ai, I love you,
Mai, Mai, Mai, My darling,
Mii, Mii, Mii, Help me*,
Popotan*, Popotan, Popotan,
When you're feeling down and lost,
Listen to the voices of the dandelions*.
That's right; if be yourself and open your heart,
the dandelions* will tell you.
He* will come, won't come,
(he) likes me, hates me,
This love is real, is fake,
They* know everything.
I can't stand it, popopo, I can't stand it, popopo,
I know I shouldn't, but I can't stop myself.
No more, popopo, no more, popopo.
Even if it's a dream of a dream, don't give up,
Popotan.
While my first thought was that this song would give Doug Ai's power from the anime in question (she can speak to dandelions; while they're often quite knowledgeable about certain matters, they tend to gossip a lot, which means that it often takes her quite a bit of conversation to get anything *USEFUL*), something that is quite appropriate, the idea has a few flaws, which should become apparent when I get to the translation notes.
In the opening lines, I was left with something of a translation dillema: they're puns on the names of the three sisters in the anime: Ai, Mai, and Mii. Moreover, the video features shots of the girls in question to accompany their lines. Hence, I decided that leaving the names intact was a better option than simply interpreting them as repeated English words.
Secondly, the name of the anime itself has meaning within the song. Where it does, I translated it; otherwise, I left it as is. That being said, the name's meaning leads into the main difficulty with the power I suggested. The anime's name, 'popotan', comes from the Japanese word for 'dandelion', 'tanpopo'. The main characters in the show, Ai, Mai, and Mii, insist, however, on reversing the characters and saying it 'popotan'. If Doug first heard this song outside of the context of the anime, though, he wouldn't neccessarily know that, and the song uses the same odd term for dandelions.
Next, 'he' one of the lines is something of a mistranslation -- 'he' is really 'ano hito' or 'that person', but from context and the video, it's pretty obvious that 'that person' is male, and the expression's not nearly as awkward in Japanese as the literal translation is in English.
Finally, 'they' on another of the lines is translated in the singular by the fansub I used for portions of the translation, and happens to be on one of the lines I couldn't translate myself, but as Japanese doesn't have a distinction between singular and plural, and the line was referring to dandelions, I feel fairly confident in tweaking that line to match in number.-------------------
I dove through the hailstorm of plasma and laser bolts, ignoring the instantly regenerating wounds I took from the occasional projectile, and focused on my target. Using my flame to sear through the reinforced window of Quincy's office, I plunged into the surprised executive's domain like a guided missile that, after using a small amount of flame to insure that the office's inhabitant wasn't an android double, promptly discharged its payload.
"WEDGIE!!"
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