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Well, now we know where the marriage "scorched earth" starts |
Posted by: LynnInDenver - 01-24-2018, 07:31 PM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...in-church/
The basic gist of it is an attempt to replace 100% of the mentions in Missouri state law of "marriage" with "contract of domestic union". Including converting all marriages done in the state into "contract of domestic union", with the added idea that churches can choose if they report they've performed a marriage to the government.
The bill is a Death Star sized document. I can see several problems with it.
First: The idea that only a church can do a marriage. This is in part because marriage is a legal identity, with a lot of benefits attached to it through a large body of law, both common and explicit, while domestic/civil union doesn't have such.
Second: This is a deliberate and radical misalignment of state law from federal law. This potentially yanks out the rug from under anyone who's married in Missouri in terms of things like taxes and other Federal institutions. Doubly so with the attempt to make it 100% retroactive, which would at minimum annoy a lot of bureaucrats and lawmakers.
Third: I haven't even tried to find how they handle out of state marriages. Do they merely recognize them as "contract of domestic unions"? Or are they going to decide to no longer recognize such because the language no longer aligns?
I'm fairly certain the "marriage is only a church thing" is kind of a gimme for challenges, and is really intended to be struck down, with the hope that they can retain the "it's domestic unions now" and basically do the whole, "blame the gays, they're the reason we had to burn the whole legal framework to the ground."
I'm not saying this just as a problem because I'm in a same sex marriage right now... I'm also considering that my parents will be affected by this (45+ years, married in Missouri).
It's audacious, but I'm not surprised that someone's finally attempting to "take the marriage ball and go home", with little to no regard to HOW MUCH DAMAGE it will do to just about everyone in the state. And given that I'm not sure what the interactions are like legally, I'm thinking Missouri just added about ten years to my desire to avoid the place.
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Former speechwriter for George W. Bush compares Trump to gum disease |
Posted by: robkelk - 01-24-2018, 12:18 PM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun
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Here's the CBC article, which draws on multiple interviews with David Frum.
Quote:"With Donald Trump, it's not a sudden seizure, not a heart attack, it's gum disease," says David Frum, who is now a senior editor at The Atlantic magazine.
"You can die from gum disease, but you don't die right away. Your body just corrodes and it begins to emit toxins, and the toxins get into the bloodstream and those toxins eventually affect the heart and you can die."
Quote:"The whole system of the United States was supposedly designed to keep people like Donald Trump away from power and if they somehow slipped into power, control them while there. That system is failing. Trumpocracy is the mode of government that's grown up in the failure of the American system."
And some other quotes that are far too long for this post.
The article's worth a read, no matter where you fall on the political spectrum - it helps illuminate some otherwise-murky parts of both the administration lead by the current POTUS and the process that put him there. it also explains why one is likely to be disappointed if one is hoping for a Democrat upsurge in this year's midterms.
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New Member Registration Request... |
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 01-23-2018, 12:43 PM - Forum: Forums
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... You know, before moving to my own platform here, I never appreciated how much work ezBoard and Yuku did in keeping random spammers out of the boards. Now I've got more than a few things in place to do the same, but every once in a while someone gets to the approval stage and I just can't be sure. Iii was one, and at the same time (s)he asked to join the board, we had a couple others who either were spammers or didn't care to reply to my "just say hi back to me and I'll approve you" emails.
We've got another one. I've already dispatched the "Hi! Where'd you hear about my board?" message, but if they're a real person maybe someone here will recognize them and save us a little time:
"tina10", with an email address that starts with "sarachauhan" at gmail, and an IP address in Pakistan.
Does that ring a bell for anyone?
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