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  Justice Scalia rips apart California's video Game law...
Posted by: Werehawk - 06-27-2011, 09:15 PM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun - Replies (3)

Justice Scalia proves to be far more than his detractors caricature of him as a conservative reactionary dinosaur would have us believe. His writing of the opinion striking down Californias violent video game law is a classic piece well worth quoting. Full opinion here: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/08-1448.pdf
And his examples are spot on.
Excerpt below:

Quote:California’s argument would fare better if there were a long standing tradition in this country of specially restricting children’s access to depictions of violence, but there is none. Certainly the books we give children to read—or read to them when they are younger—contain no shortage of gore. Grimm’s Fairy Tales, for example, are grim indeed. As her just deserts for trying to poison Snow White, the wicked queen is made to dance in red hot slippers “till she fell dead on the floor, a sad example of envy and jealousy.” The Complete Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales 198 (2006 ed.). Cinderella’s evil stepsisters have their eyes pecked out by doves. Id., at 95. And Hansel and Gretel (children!) kill their captor by baking her in an oven. Id., at 54.

High-school reading lists are full of similar fare. Homer’s Odysseus blinds Polyphemus the Cyclops bygrinding out his eye with a heated stake. The Odyssey of Homer, Book IX, p. 125 (S. Butcher & A. Lang transls.1909) (“Even so did we seize the fiery-pointed brand and whirled it round in his eye, and the blood flowed about the heated bar. And the breath of the flame singed his eyelids and brows all about, as the ball of the eye burnt away, and the roots thereof crackled in the flame”). In the Inferno, Dante and Virgil watch corrupt politicians struggle to stay submerged beneath a lake of boiling pitch, lest they be skewered by devils above the surface. Canto XXI, pp.187–189 (A. Mandelbaum transl. Bantam Classic ed.1982). And Golding’s Lord of the Flies recounts how a schoolboy called Piggy is savagely murdered by other children while marooned on an island. W. Golding, Lord of the Flies 208–209 (1997 ed.).4

This is not to say that minors’ consumption of violent entertainment has never encountered resistance. In the 1800’s, dime novels depicting crime and “penny dreadfuls” (named for their price and content) were blamed in some quarters for juvenile delinquency. See Brief for Cato Institute as Amicus Curiae 6–7. When motion pictures came along, they became the villains instead. “The days when the police looked upon dime novels as the most dangerous of textbooks in the school for crime are drawing to a close. . . . They say that the moving picture machine . . . tends even more than did the dime novel to turn the thoughts of the easily influenced to paths which sometimes lead to prison.” Moving Pictures as Helps to Crime,

N. Y. Times, Feb. 21, 1909, quoted in Brief for Cato Institute, at 8. For a time, our Court did permit broad censorship of movies because of their capacity to be “used for evil,” see Mutual Film Corp. v. Industrial Comm’n of Ohio, 236 U. S. 230, 242 (1915), but we eventually reversed course, Joseph Burstyn, Inc., 343 U. S., at 502; see also Erznoznik, supra, at 212–214 (invalidating a drive-in movies restriction designed to protect children). Radio dramas were next, and then came comic books. Brief for Cato Institute, at 10–11. Many in the late 1940’s andearly 1950’s blamed comic books for fostering a “preoccupation with violence and horror” among the young, leading to a rising juvenile crime rate. See Note, Regulation ofComic Books, 68 Harv. L. Rev. 489, 490 (1955). But efforts to convince Congress to restrict comic books failed. Brief for Comic Book Legal Defense Fund as Amicus Curiae 11–

15.5 And, of course, after comic books came television and music lyrics.

California claims that video games present specialproblems because they are “interactive,” in that the playerparticipates in the violent action on screen and determines its outcome. The latter feature is nothing new: Sinceat least the publication of The Adventures of You: Sugarcane Island in 1969, young readers of choose-your-own adventure stories have been able to make decisions that determine the plot by following instructions about which page to turn to. Cf. Interactive Digital Software Assn. v. St. Louis County, 329 F. 3d 954, 957–958 (CA8 2003). As for the argument that video games enable participation inthe violent action, that seems to us more a matter of degree than of kind. As Judge Posner has observed, all literature is interactive. “[T]he better it is, the more interactive. Literature when it is successful draws the reader into the story, makes him identify with the characters, invites him to judge them and quarrel with them, to experience their joys and sufferings as the reader’s own.” American Amusement Machine Assn. v. Kendrick, 244

F. 3d 572, 577 (CA7 2001) (striking down a similar restriction on violent video games).
--Werehawk--
My mom's brief take on upcoming Guatemalan Elections "In last throes of preelection activities. Much loudspeaker vote pleading."

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  Can you say this correctly?
Posted by: Foxboy - 06-27-2011, 06:31 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (16)

Reposted from some random blog, a poem detailing what sucks about English spelling:

If you can correctly pronounce every word in this
poem, you will be speaking English better than 90% of the native
English speakers in the world. After trying the verses, a Frenchman said
he’d prefer six months of hard labour to reading six lines aloud. Try
them yourself.

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it’s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation’s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation (think of Psyche!)
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won’t it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It’s a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

- B. Shaw
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll

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  Social Media Sites posting
Posted by: Ebony - 06-27-2011, 03:54 PM - Forum: Forums - Replies (3)

Is anyone else getting a second window that asks if you want to post to various social media sites when you post here? If so, how do you turn that off?
Ebony the Black Dragon
http://ebony14.livejournal.com

"Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you."

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  Anyone have an opinion of gog.com
Posted by: Jinx999 - 06-27-2011, 02:00 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (10)

I was wonderring if anyone knew about it. I followed a link there and noticed they had Planescape Torment for sale . .
http://www.gog.com/en/frontpage/

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  Fun Threads....
Posted by: Shader - 06-27-2011, 01:59 PM - Forum: The Legendary - No Replies

We seriously have great devs and community reps.
While I wait for the last odd 500mB or so to trickle down my line, I'm browsing the forums.
Seriously its downloading at 15-20kb/s so this will take a while... and I've got excess bandwidth.
Anyway... how can you NOT have a grin on your face after reading these threads
Arcanaville informed me that I am required to answer the following questions...
Dev Chat

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  The immigration law discussion Part 2 - The law of unintended consequences
Posted by: ordnance11 - 06-26-2011, 04:24 AM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun - Replies (35)

Okay, Bob was correct in shutting down the previous thread concerning immigration since it seems that civility seems to be in very short supply. however, since this is an important issue. I'll try it again. So keep it civil, eh?
Georgia did it's own version of the Alabama immigration law. Well, it worked. Most of farm workers don't want to work there anymore. So now they're short of farm workers and they're trying to fill the gap with probationers:
http://www.huffingtonpost...tion-law-f_n_882050.html
Ain't gonna work. Most farm jobs is back-breaking work. Unless you get someone really desperate, used to farm work, I'd say 90% of your folks on probation are not gonna cut it. Same thing will probably happen here in Alabama. Wouldn't be too surprised if someone started to suggest chain gangs soon.
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Into terror!,  Into valour!
Charge ahead! No! Never turn
Yes, it's into the fire we fly
And the devil will burn!
- Scarlett Pimpernell

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  Tech recommendation, please?
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 06-25-2011, 01:46 PM - Forum: General Chatter - Replies (16)

Now that I have an income, it's time for me to replace the DVD-ROM burner in my desktop, which died in November 2009.  (I've been making do with Peg's laptop for all things burnt to disk; installing stuff has been a right bitch, though.)
So, after the first paycheck or two comes in, I want to get something that's sitting in or near the sweet spot between price and performance.  What do people recommend/link?  And is a Blueray drive a viable option yet?
Thank you.
-- Bob
---------
Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.

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  Warning: Incoming Game!
Posted by: Shader - 06-25-2011, 01:46 PM - Forum: The Legendary - Replies (7)

Ok... So not so much a game as such, but...
As per announcement here:
The update to Issue 20, Incarnates Ascend, is launching on Tuesday, June 28, 2011!
Please fire up your modems, check your containment suits at the door, and be sure to gather your hard hats before leaving.
Edit: Time change - Please note the time changes to 4:00 a.m. PDT (7:00 a.m. EDT / 12:00 p.m. BST / 13:00 CEST) and 8:00 a.m. PDT (11:00 a.m. EDT / 4:00 p.m. BST / 17:00 CEST)!

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  Challenge: Add this to Fenspace
Posted by: robkelk - 06-25-2011, 06:11 AM - Forum: Fenspace - Replies (9)

Other than having something to do with fenkinder, I'm at a loss as to what to do with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/26858_Misterrogers]this... but it really should be in Fenspace. Any ideas?
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

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  John Stewart Slams LSM Coverage of Sarah Palin Emails
Posted by: Logan Darklighter - 06-24-2011, 11:19 PM - Forum: Politics and Other Fun - Replies (11)

I almost missed this. Glad I didn't. This is just a genius piece of media analysis. Good on John Stewart for noticing that the LSM have become caricatures of themselves.

http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:cms: ... com:389409 The Daily Show - Pmail
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