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Definition of Science Fiction? |
Posted by: hmelton - 09-26-2005, 05:54 PM - Forum: Other People's Fanfiction
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I just did a search at Books a million for Science Fiction and the first 30 entries were "Harry Potter" related.
I don't see how anyone could mistake a witchcraft fantasy like "Harry Potter" for Science Fiction.
I could see it showing up eventually in the search, but putting it ahead of such writers as Isaac Asimov or Jules Verne is either stupidity or more likely greed.
It did make me curious.
What one story or writer best matches your Definition of Science Fiction?
Science Fiction
For me Jules Vernes stories meet the Classic definition of true Science Fiction.
His "20,000 Leagues under the sea" being one of the better examples.
For me Mary Shelleys "Frankenstien" is a good example of more Fantasy focused Science Fiction.
What are your choices?
howard melton
God Bless
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Religious Wars of the Future |
Posted by: M Fnord - 09-21-2005, 10:52 PM - Forum: Other People's Fanfiction
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This is something I wrote up a long time ago for the Orion's Arm SF worldbuilding/gaming/wannabe media franchise setting, just to see if I could pull it off. In the end it was rejected, but it's too good a bit not to share....
From the Encyclopedia Galactica, Revised 351st Edition, 10258 a.t. (12,227 AD):
Trekkist-Jedi Cladewar
Feud between Star Trek and Star Wars lifestyles, lasting since the Atomic Age.
The Trekkist-Jedi conflict extends back to the late Atomic Age, when the film Star Wars was released. The Star Wars meme, ostensibly "science fiction" though really owing more in construction to the works of Atomic Age fabulists JRR Tolkien and Joseph Campbell, took root quickly and firmly in the minds of the baseline youth at the time. This put it into direct conflict with the older and more established Star Trek meme, which also had a resurgence with feature films released at roughly the same time.
By the early Interplanetary Age both Star Trek and Star Wars had developed large masses of devoted followers, and the conversion from simple fandom to religion/philosophy was proceeding apace. The Trekkist Church had by this time been founded, and the Star Wars groups were in the process of coalescing into the Jedi clade.
Both groups invested heavily in interplanetary colonization, building habitats and planetary colonies whenever possible. At this point, the rivalry between the two groups consisted mainly of spoof attacks on "enemy" computer networks, nasty insults, and forcible conversion of nonaligned rivals (see Scientology, Church of).
During the Nanoswarms in Sol System, the rivalry became an open conflict between the two groups. Black-market weapons and specially-designed "superweapons" were employed by the Trekkists and the Jedi, each determined that the other would not survive the swarms. Eventually, though, the swarms forced the combatants back behind their blue goo defenses.
An informal truce was called in the pre-Federation era, as both groups recognized a need to aid in the reconstruction of Sol System. The groups were also bolstered by the Expulsion; as billions of humans were thrown off Earth by GAIA, many were welcomed into the Trekkist and Jedi ranks. When the Federation was founded at Roddenberry Habitat, the Jedi percieved that any chance they had at gaining supremacy would not succeed, and decided to find their fortunes in interstellar space. The hardliners of the Trekkists also decided to leave the workings of the Federation to the willing-to-compromise moderates, and followed the Jedi into space.
Both groups founded planets near the edge of the Inner Sphere; the Trekkist cladehome of Vulcan, and the Jedi cladehome of Coruscant. From there the clades built up numbers and expanded further into the perhiphery, exploring and colonizing a number of systems. The rivalry was mostly forgotten during the Federation Age due to the general lack of timely communications between the two clades. However, the ancient feud became part of both Trekkist and Jedi mythology, especially the brief war during the Nanoswarms. It is believed that the dissapearance of several Trekkist ships rimwards of Pacifica is due to an encounter with Jedi warships, but this has not been verified.
The invention of wormholes and the beginings of the modern Nexus brought the clades back into full contact with each other in 4537. The reconnection brought back attempts at network attacks, but by the end of the 46th Century the "war" had dropped to a steady-state of insults and debates over religious minutae. This steady-state was to remain the status quo between the Trekkists and the Jedi until the Version War.
The war between the clades flashed hot during the chaos of the Version War, when a Trekkist armada made an assault on Coruscant, causing massive damage to the world-city and killing billions. The Jedi retaliation sparked a number of smaller conflicts as anti-Trekkist factions took the opportunity to strike at their enemies, and the war was engaged. Aside from the initial blows, once the wormholes were closed casualties were fairly light, consisting primarily of the crews of the warships. Still, the Trekkist-Jedi War was one of the last of the Version War conflicts to be ended, finally coming to a halt with a Negentropist-mediated settlement at Roddenberry Habitat some 150 after the Version War itself had ended.
Since the War and the reestablishment of the Nexus, the clades have returned to their steady-state of mutual dislike. As a sop to relativistic crews who are returning to the cladehomes from the war era, special virch environments have been constructed to simulate a continuing war between Trekkist and Jedi using "proper religious physics" (i.e. the nonstandard physics of the original fictions). These virches have, against all odds, become slightly popular in the Nexus, and are considered cult classics.---
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Da Elliott Brothers |
Posted by: SKJAM - 09-20-2005, 05:37 AM - Forum: The Game Everyone Loves To Play
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From the album "I Like It In Duluth" by da Elliott Brothers (jug band)...
"I Like It In Duluth": A pean to that northern city. Another helpful location teleport song, though admittedly not the most immediately useful destination.
"Polar Bear Stomp": The repeated refrain, "I'm a polar bear! " gives Sangnoir the useful ability of turning into a polar bear. The bad news is that the lyrics would also give him a near irresistable urge to defecate on ice.
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New Eyrie (sqeee!) |
Posted by: Sweno - 09-20-2005, 03:17 AM - Forum: Other People's Fanfiction
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ok people, now the fun really starts
www.eyrie-productions.com...knight.txt
first movement of Symphony #5 is now up.
go enjoy.
will post more when I have finished reading it.-Terry
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"in comes a man in cameo with a american flag, because american flags float around in the wilderness." - Mike Keon
Please Remember: People are stupid... Programers are people.
-Terry
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TF2: Spy
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To whoever is in the chatroom, 19 Sept 2005... |
Posted by: Bob Schroeck - 09-19-2005, 02:07 PM - Forum: Forums
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... at around 8 AM eastern daylight time:
I see you there, but my work's firewall/paranoia/whathaveyou won't let me connect to the chat server. I did try to go in and say hello.
-- Bob
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It's a "magical" land. I think "magical" is ancient Greek for "pain in the butt". -- Bun-Bun, Sluggy Freelance, 11/9/03
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YGO Update *SPOILERS* |
Posted by: SKJAM - 09-19-2005, 04:27 AM - Forum: Future Steps
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Now that Shonen Jump USA is printing the Memories arc, it looks like the place where Sangnoir could do the most good/damage.
The Ancient Egyptian language barrier might be a problem, but I'm sure that he'd object to the government imprisoning/executing random citizens to extract their ka.
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this is CD not shutting up about the Prometheus class |
Posted by: classicdrogn - 09-18-2005, 09:51 AM - Forum: Other People's Fanfiction
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(so I don't keep pirating A117's threads)
On naming one of them "USS Hecate":
from an overdone witchy webpage: Quote: Hecate was the protectress of far off places, roads, and byways. At night during the dark moon, Hecate could be seen walking the road of Greece with her howling dogs and torches. Statues of her stood at crossroads where the traveler faced three choices. Food offerings called "Hecate's Supper" were left there late at night on the eve of the full Moon. The person leaving the food walked away without looking back, for they were afraid to confront the goddess face to face. This was a way of honoring the threefold goddess where on could look three ways at once.
A more less overtly religious overview can be found here, of special note being that Hecate is the daughter of two of the original titans (Prometheus being himself a titan) and is regarded as having three faces - appropriate for a vessel that splits into three components, no? Furthur, being a guardian of sailors, livestock, and the young should bode well for a class whose greatest utility outside of pitched battle is probably commerce protection - a small ship that can do the job of three, and has the speed and striking power of a capital ship to lay the smack down on raiders without tying up as much manpower or material as a Soveriegn or even a trio of Novas.
- CD
What, you think Samuel L. Jackson isn't going to survive the zombie apocalypse?
SERVO: Loook *deeeeply* into my eyes... Tell me, what do you see?
CROW: (hypnotized) A twisted man who wants to inflict his pain upon others.
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